Guest lightnix Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 I was wondering today, whether any of our younger members are likely to be affected, by all this talk of curfews being introduced for young people living in certain areas? Do you live somewhere where a curfew might be introduced? What effect do you think it will have on the staging of school plays and concerts? Will they have to be put on during daylight hours or at weekends while the curfew is in force - or will you be able to get an exemption? Have any schools even thought about the possible impact? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljoshua Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 In the area where I live they have a permanant dispersal zone. This means that anyone under the age of 18 can't travel through or congrgate within the zone in groups of 2 or more and if caught will be escorted home by police. This was put into play last month. The month previous to that we had a dance show which sold out both nights (500 Tickets) most of the people who attended arrived in one or more large groups (15-20 youths in a group). We put on a similar show last week and sold about 350-400 tickets. The type of people who normally come to the dance shows (14-17 Years old boys) were not so many in attendance this time. When I asked them the next day why they didn't attend some said they were planning to see the show but traveled in a group with friends local to them and got escorted home or that they didn't want to risk comming in on their own because they couldn't travel in a group. Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ynot Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 The way I've understood the issue of curfews is that if the youngsters under 'assessment' have prrof of a legitimate reason to be out and about after the deadline, (eg purchased tickets) then they're exempt, but only insofar as they're not 'off-route' after such an event, ie betwixt venue and home... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokm Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 When I asked them the next day why they didn't attend some said they were planning to see the show but traveled in a group with friends local to them and got escorted home or that they didn't want to risk coming in on their own because they couldn't travel in a group.Sounds like petty, over the top policing to me. Surely all these kids (who got escorted home), should have had to do nothing else but be required than to show their tickets to the event, to prove that's where they really going.. Its silly isn't it... The police now have to go around, stopping kids who are doing nothing other than being with their friends then take them home, which means their wasting valuable time, not being out patrolling the streets & watching for the real troublemakers/drug dealers/burglars/other sorts of nuisance kids & criminals, who are most likely on their or hanging around with only their mate. :) Now.. I admit these curfew zones will be aimed for the really 'bad' area's of certain towns/cities, but going on past experience of the government/councils getting decisions like these right, I'd not be surprised if in some places it'll be a total farce and something silly happens like the area extends into an area with youth centres/clubs, schools, etc. Sorry this's basically been a big rant, but I've noticed this over the past few years.. Englands really becoming an anti-kid place to live, it's not surprising there's so much under-achieving in schools & kids generally not interested in being a productive member of society. From their point of view its, why bother.. for the first 18/19 years of your life your treated no better than a criminal, just because you live in a certain area or dress/act a certain way that's similar to the people who really are 'bad'. Hopefully this idea'll just disappear.. T *edit - Half beaten to it by Tony/Ynot!* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lightnix Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Thanks for the replies so far, but can I ask that they be kept ON TOPIC, please? I didn't want to start a big debate on the rights and wrongs of curfews - just the effects they are having / likely to have on school shows and what (if anything) the schools are doing to work around them. Thank you :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljoshua Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Well I have just been talking to a vice principal about this and it turns out we had to refund the 50 or so tickets (£150) because of them not being allowed to attend. Our local PSCO has also commented on this before and his words were something along the line of "If youths are traveling within the dispersal zone in a group of 2 or more they will be escorted home whatever the circumstances" When asked about nights of a show and if the youths had tickets he said "they may have just printed tickets at home with no intention of attending and the rules still apply" I personally think this could be very bad for ticket sales over the next year. Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljoshua Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 I will be doing just that in the next comming weeks when I have a chance. Josh A concurrent post has been automatically merged from this point on. It strikes me as strange that I seem to be the only student on here thet has any comments on the topic of curfews. Any others wish to add anything? Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlyfarly Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Josh. I think it might be an idea to do the letter ASAP. ZanuNuLabour always works from a knee-jerk reaction and if they can they will pass Laws toute suite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbsy Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Bringing this back to a BR topic for a moment.... I know from reading their profiles that quite a few of our younger members (including quite a few under 16s) say they're running businesses providing lighting, sound, disco and so on. I was wondering if any of these businesses will be affected by the need for under-age operators to be home by the curfew time? Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bleasdale Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 From a personal point of view, (coming from an area with an active section 30), I usually just pay my parents in petrol money to pick me up and drop me off. I do use public transport when applicable, and usually, I have been in this situation before, if you calmly explain to the officer what you have been doing and maybe show him your business card, like I do, they wont hastle you again. He actually gave me some praise for keeping myself busy rather than making his life harder.... If push does come to shove I would do as he says, and let my parents explain to him when I got home. thanksjoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Moderation: The topic got sidetracked, but the sidetrack was worthy enough to be split to it's own topic in the Crew Room. So if anyone can't find their posts they are all here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techiegsy Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Curfews and me... Well, if they were to be introduced I think first of all I'd protest a total ban as I know many people my age who like to be involved or to go see a show. It would also severly prevent me in getting "working" experience in running shows and other things like trouble shooting live (unless they were garunteed to end Pre-Curfew). But I would think any sensible-minded officer would allow you though with say, a signed note and a calm explanation. But if you meet a stupid officer who needs to make his quota of arrests for the day, it might be dangerous... Just my 2pDan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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