computer Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 hi, at a rig I saw the other day, they had what looked like 4 vari-lites. they were the standard black things, with moving head, yolk or whatever the technical term is like those vari lites or I think some macs are like that. as this was a rig-on-the-cheap I wondered how they managed to buy or hire in these quite expensive lights for 3 weeks. I checked with one of the technicians, who I vaguely know, and he said they bought the 4 of them for about £300ish as far as he knew. I was just wondering if anyof you know where to get these, obviously you get what you pay for, but they had multiple colours/gobos and are DMX as usual. any ideas?computer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ike Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 Possibly second hand units? Second hand movers are worth suprisingly little especially if they are cheeper units to start with and have had a hard life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
computer Posted March 26, 2004 Author Share Posted March 26, 2004 I don't think these are second hand, he said they came with all the manuals, cables, etc so unless it was well looked after. plus, there were two on the floor, and two on the rig, and looking quickly at the ones on the floor, they look pretty clean/new... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mush Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 Showtec/Chauvet/ADJ market the Cyborg or someat. Moving head with folded sheet metal housing sure its someat like £299 retail. Don`t think any of Pearl River stuff is quite that cheap, have a look on ebay always tons there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lightnix Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 As is always the case, you get what you pay for. Possibly the most reasonably priced moving head units of any real quality right now come from Robe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olistockman Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 I'll put in a good word for Robe, I've got a few of their bottom end movers...2 Spot 160XT2 Spot 150XT2 DJ Scan 250's and they are spot on, way better than most of their competition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimac Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 better than minimacs? other than the price, is there much difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olistockman Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 I haven't had time to explore the features of the MiniMac, but they are definately faster, which is ideal for the work I'm doing at the moment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimac Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 From martin website 17° beam angle with manually adjustable focus 12 rich dichroic colors 7 interchangeable rotating gobos Controllable strobe effect and black out Fast and precise movement, 540° of pan by 270° of tilt, 3-digit LED control panel Bright 150 W discharge source included Switch-selectable power supply settings Multiple control options; DMX, a stand-alone, master/slave capability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olistockman Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 From Robe website Here Source Lamp: Compact discharge lamp Base: G-12 Approved model: Philips CDM-SA/T 150/942 Ballast: Magnetic Optical System Objective: 19° Electrical Specification Wiring options - EU-model: 208/230/240V AC, 50/60Hz, US model: 100/120/208/230/240V AC,50/60Hz Power consumption: 300 VA at 230V/50Hz Mechanical Specification Height: 415 mm (head in horizontal position) Width: 292 mm Depth: 378 mm Weight - EU model: 10.5 kg US model: 12.5kg Thermal Maximum ambient temperature (Ta): 40°C (104°F) Maximum surface temperature: 80°C (176°F) Gobos Metal gobos - outside diameter: 26.9 mm, aluminium, thickness: 0.5mm Dichroic gobos - outside diameter: 26.8mm, thickness: 1.1mm, high temperature borofloat or better glass Glass gobos - outside diameter: 26.8mm, Max. thickness: 4mm, high temperature borofloat or better glass Control and Programming Protocol: USITT DMX-512 Control channels: 9 Bilt-in demo sequences Display: 4-digit LED display Pan/Tilt resolution: 8- or 16-bit Master/slave operating 4 DMX channel-presettings Movement control: Tracking and vector Buit-in analyzer for easy fault finding Data in/out: Locking 3-pin XLR built-in microphone for audio mode Electromechanical Effects Colour wheel: 11 dichroic filters + open Rotating gobo wheel: 3 metal gobos, 3 glass and 1 dichroic gobo + open All gobos are replaceable Dimmer/Shutter: Full range dimming and variable strobo effect Pan: 530° Tilt: 280° Maximum Pan-movement 530° in 3s Maximum Tilt-movement 280° in 1.9s Rigging via 2 Omega holders Pro's and con's are fairly close! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
computer Posted March 29, 2004 Author Share Posted March 29, 2004 whats the price of those two models? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimac Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 if it was the colourspot 17 AT oli was talking about then: colourspot 170 AT= £1,149minimacs = £995 im sure there are reductions for the robe stuff but I know ac lighting can do minimacs for £650!! Edit: Colourspots for £945.05 on 10 out of 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 Moderation:Advertising removed. 29/03/04. 22:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterbassman Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 contact me off the board for ROBE prices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lightnix Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 It is generally better to spend a bit too much money than not quite enough. If you spend too much money, all you risk losing is some money; spend too little and you risk losing a whole lot more, because what you have bought may not be able to do the job that needs doing. So when contemplating the cheapest option, add a little extra to the price to cover yourself in the event of it all going belly up. When you have done that you will find you have the money to buy something better. I'm not having a go at you, computer, but it sounds awfully like you are trying to get us to justify the decision you have maybe already made: to go for the cheapest option. Step back for a moment and think about what you actually want these lights to do and then pick the unit which meets those needs, regardless of cost. It may not be the cheapest one, but it will probably prove to be the best value for money in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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