maxxys training courses

[Joe Bleasdale]

hey BR,

does anyone know where I can do a martin maxxys training course? I have given up on the wholehog 3 at the moment.

 

thanks

joe

[peternewman]

Have you tried asking the guys at Martin?

[knotted]

just curious why you gave up on the whole hog?

 

I'd contact martin directly for training, I'm sure someone can correct me but I can't think of a (UK) rental co. with one actually in hire stock.

[live]

Joe, try the Maxxys forum http://www.martin.com/forum/

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[Trundle]

I think we have One at Stage Electrics, not a very common desk though !

[Bryson]

At the risk of veering off-topic:

 

Why the Maxxyz?*

 

 

I ask because it would seem that you're doing the right thing by getting training, but you're picking consoles that you're unlikely to come up against in the real world. There aren't an awful lot of Hog 3s floating around, and even less Maxxyz's. (Maxxyi, perhaps? :P)

 

The 500-series you've been working on is a good start (although a very "theatre" console), but stuff that's more prevalent in the rental market will probably do you more favours in terms of getting work. I'd suggest, if this is the way you want to go, looking at:

Avo Pearl (Hundreds of them floating around. Plus the training is pretty good at Avo, too.)

Grand MA (Lots of these, too, in all the different size variants)

And even stuff like being good on a Fatfrog would help for smaller corporate "bunch of LED wall wash and a stage wash" jobs.

 

The Hog 3 and Maxxyz operate in a higher-end, "big rock'n'roll" market where you're unlikely to get near a console for several years...by which time someone else will have a newer, fancier console out.

 

I guess what I'm saying is: if you want to work, then choose the consoles that will get you work.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

* = Note spelling...

[Joe Bleasdale]

Thanks guys for posting in this topic and the other training one I had going. After a while, I have now booked courses for the Grand MA, right up to network specialist, congo, upto advanced. Aswell as the MAC series and MAC 2000 series courses at Martin. I do also plan to get experiance with the Hog's, as the comany I am doing my work experiance with have a few in thier hire stock.

 

Thanks again guys

joe

[JDP]

The Hog 3 and Maxxyz operate in a higher-end, "big rock'n'roll" market where you're unlikely to get near a console for several years...by which time someone else will have a newer, fancier console out.

 

I totally disagree with that statement, in fact its total kack. IF the LD has a budget for the desk, the desk will go on the job. Its as simple as that. I work with an LD who took a tour out which was more or less 36 generics and 12 movers, the LD took out a Hog I PC to do this - rather than a Pearl, which is realistically what the job needed. It comes down to what the LD knows and wants, I have seen Hog IIIs do what I know other people could do on an Azure - and I have also seen people do on a Pearl what they really should be doing on a Hog III or D4.

 

Additionally, your statement is also kack as, especially these days, Hog IIIs do less concerts. With the edit cue facility on the Hog III it makes it ideal for theatre, TV, corporate events as well as touring concert, not to mention countless other facilities. Once again, I have seen Hog IIIs operate in all 'categories' of this industry, not specifically "Rock 'n' Roll" or any other area of the industry. Just perhaps that you have read on the internet Hog IIIs are doing all these big concerts doesn't mean they only do that, or that they are any good at doing that!!

 

What I would say regarding learning desks. The grandMA seems to go on all out gigs at the moment, closely followed by something Avolites. The Hog III does get used, but generally by old schoolers who have come from a Hog II background and want to stay Hog based. Most of the young new LDs are using MAs or Avo - usually depending on where they came from. The Maxxyz since about 2005 seems to have gone, and seems only used by US LDs, I have only twice since a Maxxyz out on the field.

 

I would seriously forget learning the Hog III, MA or whatever and concentrate on Avolites desks. Even with the best knowledge in the world, with no or little experience (at all) running desks the first moving light job you will get will probably be on a Pearl or Azure. Even if you know the MA insideout you will need to show some competency into operating smaller desks on smaller shows to gain knowledge and experience. Commonly, every rental house in the UK has an Avo desk, where as very few have Hog IIIs or MAs, and the ones that do usually have programmers who do the Stones or Queen etc on their books.

[Joe Bleasdale]

The reason I choose the MA and congo, is for the fact that they can both be adapted to just about anything. As well as the avalibility of the Grand MA light, Ultra light and congo jnr. Alos the place I am supposed to be working at after 16 (in a few months) have about 8 congos and congo jnrs, so it was useful for that.

 

Thanks for the input though.

joe

[JDP]

Alos the place I am supposed to be working at after 16 (in a few months) have about 8 congos and congo jnrs, so it was useful for that.

 

Doesn't mean you will be one of their programmers. They may let you have a play with one in the warehouse, but going out and doing jobs with them, forget it.