timtheenchanteruk Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I know any hard hats used at heights need straps, but want opinions on these. would these hats used with these straps be OK, they are for use in a school by students, so cant justify the cost of the likes of petzl helmets as they end up being binned before their expiry, or nicked. thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikienorth Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I'd say yes, I've been known to wear similar myself. How common do you think Work at Height is on a construction site, and how common is a petzl helmet on a normal (non-theatrical) construction site?What do you think builders use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ike Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Depends what you're trying to protect against. If it's things falling on their head then yes, if it's them falling and being swung into something by a fall arrest system then probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handyandi Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 As ike says - helmets conforming to EN397 provide head protection from falling objects where as EN12492 ones with chin straps to stop hat coming off if it hits something when you fall. Although chin strap must fail before you can risk strangulation if you end up suspended from the helmet. So depend on what you want them for. One that conforms to both are more expensive. But not as expensive as an accident! Amazing what I've learnt today reading 'an introduction to rigging"....! Andi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnno Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Looking on the links given the company also does a "Bump Cap" to EN812. Is that as its name implies and just for protection against bumping your head against things e.g. spotlights when you're up a ladder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roderick Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Those hard hats and the chin straps are absolutely fine for your purpose. Even the cheaper 3 pound jobbie would do.Have a look at the information leaflet you can download from the top of the page. The only problem I can see is that the helmets may be too big for younger students. The caps will be fine when people are on a gantry or lighting bridge but wouldn't be suitable in situations where people should have a proper hard-hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 A "Bump Cap" is purely to protect against banging your head on a static object - eg lantern, rigging bar or similar. They are great for the guy(s) working at a height, as the caps tend to be lightweight and smaller. If there is a danger of being hit by a falling object, then you need a proper hard hat as a bump cap doesn't give enough protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timtheenchanteruk Posted January 30, 2008 Author Share Posted January 30, 2008 thanks guys, the chin straps are to stop them falling off the students heads whilst up the ladder/tallescope. its only year 10+ that use them, so size should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Correct me if I'm wrong but when I was at school I wasn't allowed to use the tallescope till I was year 11 or 16 in my case being oldest in my year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete McCrea Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 I remember the first time that the peakless Hard Hats got used on the railway- The first guy I saw in one looked like a Doozer from Fraggle Rock.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timtheenchanteruk Posted February 1, 2008 Author Share Posted February 1, 2008 We do have Yr 10 BTec students using ladders & the scope, When I was at school no student was allowed up any ladder! I`ve not been here long enough to rock the boat too much, although I have manage to get stopped the practise of moving the students around whilst up the scope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjohno Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 I think it depends upon the school's own regulations and insurance. I know our school was looking into doing BTec courses, however the equipment required is a lot more advanced (and expensive) than anything we currently have; whilst doing the normal GCSE drama and music courses. Although during school time students in my school aren't allowed to be at a 'working' height above 2m however after 3.15 they can if permission has been given by parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.elsbury Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Correct me if I'm wrong but when I was at school I wasn't allowed to use the tallescope till I was year 11 or 16 in my case being oldest in my year.How can we correct you if you're wrong? You're talking about your own experiences, I doubt anybody here can disprove you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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