sparkytijo Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I have just brought two par 64 led par cans from stagelighting.co.uk, and I was wondering if any one had used these before and could tell how to address them with a fat frog? Is there anything I need to download? thanks Sparky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 The most popular method seems to be to treat them a 3 separate fixtures each and then patch them as dimmer channels. if you want the effects, then these can be added too, although not everyone seems to use them. I don't, I just have them assigned as 36 dimmer channels - and then with patience you can do all sorts of nice chases and effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkytijo Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 so do mean each DMX channel is like one fixture? ours are 4 DMX channels each, and then 10 dip switches on the back. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 yep that's it so you can have 6 faders rgbrgb - if you want the effects channel, add that too, but the frog can do more than the colour fade and flash offered by the 4th DMX channel. Most LED cheap fixtures don't have a global dimmer channel, so if you write a proper fixture lib type file for it, they don't fade out when you pull a master down which is a pain. using them like 3 separate fixtures in 1 housing seems popular. I note there is a new LED fixture aroundhttp://images4.thomann.de/pics/prod/114102_large.jpg which looks nice - I wonder how bright these are with 10x red (1 Watt), 10x green (1 Watt), 5x blue (3 Watt) LEDs. There is also a 15 degree lens for them toohttp://images4.thomann.de/pics/prod/137294.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkytijo Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 how do we address the can to the desk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljoshua Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 If you address the first can as 1 and the seccond as 5 and so on then soft patch on the desk so each of the RGB channels are like this Ch1=Red1 Ch2=Green1 Ch3=Blue1 Ch4=Red2 Ch5=Green2 Ch6=Blue2 Ch7=Fx1 Ch8=Fx2 Hope this helps but I don't know how to soft patchJosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkytijo Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 Does anyone know how to soft patch LED Parcans to a FROG desk? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goochr96 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Try HERE. Just Put in the model of the desk, and download the user manual for it. That should contain all the answers you need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkytijo Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 Sorry manual didn't help.How do we get the desk to talk to the parcan? In simple terms please? There are little switches on the back of the parcans, what position do they need to be in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljoshua Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 The dip switches on the back of the par cans represent binary numbering to set the DMX address so:Dip1 = 1Dip2 = 2Dip3 = 4Dip4 = 8Dip5 = 16Dip6 = 32Dip7 = 64Dip8 = 128Dip9 = 256So if you wanted one on DMX address 367 you would set itDip1 = OnDip2 = OnDip3 = OnDip4 = OnDip5 = OffDip6 = OnDip7 = OnDip8 = OffDip9 = OnPM me with the DMX start addresses and I will tell you the Dip Switch Settings if you are unsureHope that helpsJosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkytijo Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 247 & 253 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljoshua Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 247Dip1 = OnDip2 = OnDip3 = OnDip4 = OffDip5 = OnDip6 = OnDip7 = OnDip8 = OnDip9 = Off 253Dip1 = OnDip2 = OffDip3 = OnDip4 = OnDip5 = OnDip6 = OnDip7 = OnDip8 = OnDip9 = Off Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkytijo Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 thank you Josh we will give it ago and see what happens we will keep in contact Thank you again ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trunker Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 I was told by a rep earlier in the week that you can get 3w led par cans now i.e. 10x 3w red led, 10 x 3w green led and 5 x 5w blue led? Anybody heard of these yet and are they a lot better than the 1w ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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