mini mansell Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 I need to make up a pair or trousers. they need to be capable of being set on fire, at least up to the knee.they also need to be capable of doing this for about 15 seconds. two shows a day any suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 Is this whilst being worn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mini mansell Posted January 22, 2004 Author Share Posted January 22, 2004 yes. they need to be worn for the duration of the act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew C Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 Get professional help!! You could start by looking for special effects companies working in the film industry. Sorry but I can't point you in specific directions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mini mansell Posted January 22, 2004 Author Share Posted January 22, 2004 my first thought was to use a pair or heavy leather trousers.and use flamable gell below the knees. burn time only needs to be around ten seconds. then they are to be extinguished with a fire extinguisher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryson Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 As andrew says - this is a film stuntman type of effect, which I believe is achieved with "flame paste" and insulated/flameproof underclothing similar to the stuff that F1 drivers wear. I would have thought the primary hazard as you want to set fire to the legs would be burns to the upper body caused by the top of the flames - now I think about it, whenever you see this effect in film, it tends to be upper-body only. So, in brief - I'd see if you can get any help from the film industry, but I can't see any licencing officer going for it in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mini mansell Posted January 22, 2004 Author Share Posted January 22, 2004 good point in the reply. it would be upper body burns that would result from a lowerbody fire. something I had not considered. I will be looking for information from the equity list of stunt performers later today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mini mansell Posted February 21, 2004 Author Share Posted February 21, 2004 having spoken to some very informative people. I am having a pair of trousers made from a material called carbonX http://www.chapmaninnovations.com/products/carbonx.html the company is american but their eurpean people are irish with a base in rochdale. so if you ever have any requirements for absolutely fire proof material.. thats where to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickb12345 Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 The fireproof stuff Formula 1 Drivers wear is called Nomex! Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam.henderson Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Whatever you do don't do it yourself or make them yourself!!! This is a highly dangerous effect and it will take pages of risk assesments, fire plans, and local authority guidelines and regulations to get anywhere. Don't forget- we are talking about an actors life here!!! Regards and Good Luck, Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 You really should get a stunt co-ordinator to help you plan the stunt, and any maintenance plans for your kit. Just having the fireproof trousers is not enough. proffessional planning is a MUST. When you come to perform it, someone (Employer/Venue) will have liability insurance and the insurers should insist on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam.henderson Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Yeah just to add to that you have to think about many different aspects nit just the trousers. You should employ someone responible for the stunt (i.e. a stunt co-ordiantor as ebirt suggested) You will also need to think about communications, You will need ASMS all arround to watch exactly whats happening and make sure no other actors get in the way, they should all be on Cans (unwired if possible so they can get on stage) and have radios to communicate to the Stunt Co-ordinator You also will need ASMS and Stage Crew on standby in the wings with Fire Extinguishers, sand etc. and A burns kit. You will have to make a person responsibble for calling the Fire Brigade if necessery. This means they must have a phone (pref a landline as mobiles can run out of battery and loose signal) next to them and ASMS and Stage Manager must have a way of directly communicating with them You may need camera all arround to look and check the effect fom different angles And finally you must have a plan for every scinario! What if the audiance or Auditorium catches on fire (had the FOH Manager been informed of this extra risk of fire and has he briefed his ushers) etc. However I'm sure whatever venue you are in they will allready have a very good fire escape plan for all areas! This may all seem a bit extreem but in reality it is a very dangerous stunt which will turn out to be very expensive. Good Luck Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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