Edlight Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Hello Anyone got any ideas. Lokking at having three bowls of fire on stage for a touring show, any ideas how this could be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 What about using the fabric with a fan and lamps underneath approach?http://www.northern-stage.co.uk/flames2.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edlight Posted January 14, 2004 Author Share Posted January 14, 2004 No, the designer has requested that is a real flame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmonk Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Important question really is how long does it have to last? ( well ok its not the most important question but you cant really suggest things without it ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 I think howard eaton lighting sell a 'fir gel' which most councils will approve for this sort of effect if the proper risk assesment is carried out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edlight Posted January 14, 2004 Author Share Posted January 14, 2004 Excellent, do you have any contact info for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 The two most likely solutions are propane or flame paste - I guess it depends on how big the effect needs to be and how long it needs to last. Both of those solutions require some work on the safety systems side - proper control gear with dead-man's handles, that sort of thing. (To shut off the propane supply, or close a lid on the container of flame paste, if the operator decides the flame needs to be extinguished quickly.) A good company to talk to is Howard Eaton Lighting in East Sussex - 01273 400670. H and his gang specialise in fire and other special effects. Edit : Ah, looks like Richard posted while I was typing this! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edlight Posted January 14, 2004 Author Share Posted January 14, 2004 The flame needs to be on for approx 25 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edlight Posted January 14, 2004 Author Share Posted January 14, 2004 Have just spoke to JUST FX, they have offered us some good advice so thank you Lincoln, we are also going to give Howard Eaton a call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzette Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 I would also suggest you contact every venue to are going to tour to .... some licencing officers may not allow any real flame on stage, however many risk assessments you provide!!If a large number of your touring venues won't allow you to use the effect you might want to question the cost of the effect, and what you are going to do instead in those theatres.Hopefully they will all be accomodating and you won't have any problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianl Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 http://www.emftechnology.com/EMFflame.html DMX controled propane flame fx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryson Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 I saw those propane DMX controlled flamers at the White Light do. (Shortly before I became rather impressively inebriated.) They're utterly terrifying. I would have thought you'd only ever get permission to use them outdoors - and I bet they're pricey, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianl Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 I had a chat with them at the white light day, the smaller ones that were a small bowl on a stand were available to dry hire and quite reasonable price from what I remember. the large scary ones that launched fireballs 20ft in the air had propane pilot lights but were fed from a liquid fuel tank and probably aren't suitable for indoors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Believe you and me there is nowt more scarey in the world than being stood in the general area of one of those beasts when they let em rip - the noise is (well not quite) deafening! It makes quite a good impression for the first couple of 'blows', but after that your trying to plan your route to take yourself as far as away from them as possible! Stu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edlight Posted January 14, 2004 Author Share Posted January 14, 2004 I would also suggest you contact every venue to are going to tour to .... some licencing officers may not allow any real flame on stage, however many risk assessments you provide!!If a large number of your touring venues won't allow you to use the effect you might want to question the cost of the effect, and what you are going to do instead in those theatres.Hopefully they will all be accomodating and you won't have any problems.Thats a good idea!!!!!!!! Had not thought of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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