Roderick Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Start rant\Maybe it is just me but I get really annoyed when people refer to moving / automated lights as 'intelligent'. They are not, they are just as stupid as your average PC or Mac, or any other electronic device and pretty much work on the CICO principle (Crap In / Crap Out). My favourite statement about them is, and I have forgotten the source unfortunately, "If these lights were intelligent, they would be lighting the show themselves and I would be in the pub". And they can't even make you a cup of tea!Finish rant\ So how do you refer to these light fixtures? I like the term 'nodding buckets' but will accept 'moving lights', or 'movers' if you are on SMS.What is the general consensus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardc1983 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 I think they are intelligent if there going sound to light on the built in shows! Otherwise you have to control them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelightbulb Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 wiggly lights! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Automated lighting, or moving lights. There's nothing intelligent about the fixtures, it's the programmer that introduces that element into the system. :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 I think they are intelligent if there going sound to light on the built in shows!Nope, that's not intelligence ...Intelligence is a property of mind that encompasses many related mental abilities, such as the capacities to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend ideas and language, and learn. In your scenario they are 'programmed'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardc1983 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 I think they are intelligent if there going sound to light on the built in shows!Nope, that's not intelligence ...Intelligence is a property of mind that encompasses many related mental abilities, such as the capacities to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend ideas and language, and learn. In your scenario they are 'programmed'. but there more intelligent than say a par spot that is either on or off, the microprocessor inside decides what gobo to use etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Gower Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 nodding heads, waggly mirrors.......... Heaps of metal that will not do as they are told, no I didnt want that colour and what is that one doing in the audience on strobe. Inteligent ????? Not Inteligence needed when programming .... Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkPAman Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 ...............the microprocessor inside decides what gobo to use etc. No, the operator decides what to use (I hope). The microprocessor works the appropriate motors to make it all happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardc1983 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 ...............the microprocessor inside decides what gobo to use etc. No, the operator decides what to use (I hope). The microprocessor works the appropriate motors to make it all happen. Well it does when its in sound to light mode! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timtheenchanteruk Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 "Intelligent lighting" is only as intelligent as the person working it, same goes for any peice of equipment like computers etc, I use the term moving lights, then split to moving heads, scanners, LEDs, or PIAs!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Langfeld Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 but there more intelligent than say a par spot that is either on or off, the microprocessor inside decides what gobo to use etc. Being pedantic here, but it doesn't "decide". It's purely random. Intelligence is much more than moving to random points and scrolling through gobo wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardc1983 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 but there more intelligent than say a par spot that is either on or off, the microprocessor inside decides what gobo to use etc. Being pedantic here, but it doesn't "decide". It's purely random. Intelligence is much more than moving to random points and scrolling through gobo wheels. Fair does but people who go to the clubs and who go to the shows wont know and they will think intelligent if you get me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Just read what's being written. Intelligence is defined variously asthe ability to learn, understand and make judgments or have opinions that are based on reasonandcapacity for learning, reasoning, understanding, and similar forms of mental activity; aptitude in grasping truths, relationships, facts, meanings, etc.andthe faculty of understandingandmanifestation of a high mental capacityandthe ability to learn or understand or to deal with new or trying situationsHave you ever encountered an automated lighting fixture which displays any of those attributes? No. The simple fact that something performs a specific action in response to a command does NOT make it intelligent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lightnix Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Automated lighting, or moving lights...Those are the terms I use, too. "Intelligent" lighting exists only in the dictionary of marketing-speak :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landy Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 wobbly mirrors and wobbly buckets which pack up and become expensive paper weights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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