theatrcymraeglampy Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 Hi All, Does anybody know of any outdoor emergency lighting products that available that will kick in when power fails? And for those who are about to reply with emergency twinheads, if you would like to suggest that then please suggest somewhere to find at least IP44 rated versions. It's to be used for an outdoor event. Thanks, Theatr Cymraeg Lampy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew C Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 CPC do a range of bulkhead types inc IP65 here. Or could you use the twin lamp type, keeping the box indoors and remote wiring to the heads in FP200? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theatrcymraeglampy Posted June 1, 2006 Author Share Posted June 1, 2006 It's not bad, but wouldnt give off enough light I imagine. Where as the twin lights would. I like the idea of having the box inside but fear the voltage drop on the cable to the lights would be too much. As I have over a 100m run to non maintained lighting for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew C Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 For how long? I wonder if Chloride or similar would hire you a 50v system if it is for a chunk of time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theatrcymraeglampy Posted June 1, 2006 Author Share Posted June 1, 2006 2 week outdoor event. I looked at HSS as they provide a 24v 10 head daisy chain emergency flood light system, but the fixtures are not IP rated. Is it possible to take a Twinlight and use sealent to make it waterproof? Or does the manufacturer need to do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbuckley Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 Left field suggestion - make sure the power doesnt fail to (at least some of) the circuits? Words like UPS spring to mind, along with a chat to the boys at Backroom (who once upon a time used to frequent here as techsupport) You could use 110V building site lights as your emergencies, that would alleviate the 100M run problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete McCrea Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 If it's an outdoor event are you running Gennies? If so would it be easier to get a tandem set with the two sets operating in a load sharing manner so if one dies the other covers the load? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Russell Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 It may be worth looking into Airstar Balloons I haven't used them for emergency lighting before but I don't see why they wouldn't be suitable... HTH, Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew C Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 I haven't used them for emergency lighting before but I don't see why they wouldn't be suitable...Unless it gets windy! But they are stunning when they are working... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 What sort of area are you trying to cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theatrcymraeglampy Posted June 3, 2006 Author Share Posted June 3, 2006 Have already looked at AMF and syncronised sets (Loadsharing) but the argument is that if a RCD trips then a large area will be plunged into a blackout, where as with a twin head emergency fixture atleast there would be an automatic backup lighting system. Area is a 100m walkway 2m wide. The emergency lights need to only come on when the power fails, as the mainwalkway is illuminated by festoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew C Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 Sounds like a dozen or more bulkheads, but that is a lot of £. What sort of punter numbers are you looking at ? Or, what about two separate 100m strings of festoon covering the same ground off separate gennies? ASCII art time:-----o----o----o----o----o----G1. WalkwayG2---o----o----o----o----o----o-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbuckley Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 ... but the argument is that if a RCD trips then a large area will be plunged into a blackout Only if there is only one RCD. Run two sets of interleaved festoons, or two sets, one on each side of the pathway, from a separate RCD feed. Or better still, run one from an isolating transformer without RCD protection. As long as you've got safe prime power, splitting the distribution will remove concerns about one side failing. You could save yourself a lot of hassle by asking the experts at backroom: I suspect they would suggest you use one genny and a UPS as that'll be as available and at less cost that a failover genset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivemaster Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 Would cylume sticks be cost effective? Attatch a few with cable ties and crack them at sunset. Are there event or venue licence terms to consider? What do they require? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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