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Think about how these sort of shows are done on TV...

Prerecord as much as possible, especially any sketches with people contributing from multiple locations. Prerecording will allow you to correct sync issues or do retakes until you are happy.

Maybe have a live host, but keep all the content prerecorded.

You can then transmit it on multiple platforms, Zoom/Youtube/Facebook or whatever

You need someone to produce/call the show

A tech handling playback

Possibly additional techs handling the host's feed/camera/audio

If you can't get all these people into one (socially distances) room, then you need GOOD communication between all the parties.

I've worked on a few corporate virtual conferences, most use Infinifty comms to communicate. https://www.unityintercom.com/

Basically using your own devices as intercoms just like talkback in a theatre.

This can be quite an expensive full featured system, but there is a 7 day free trial..

There are rental and cloud options, which are cheaper but not as fully featured as running your own server.

It's better to have a chance of one show rather than nothing at all ?

Indeed, but two would be better than one :-)

I have used one of these on a site, and they aren't too bad at all.

They don't have the height flexibility of a Tallescope, and working on anything below handrail height is awkward because there are so many safety bars. Other than that, the only issue we had was getting into corners because of the outriggers, but that applies to most towers or access systems.

Seems sensible and cost effective for the exhibitors and visitors

Not ideal for stand builders/suppliers/venue staff etc

Can you give me a link to it please? Which group was it? Thanks!

LINK

But back at LX - given the scale of the canvas, this was an obvious play-time for the LD and he/she delivered in spades.

I think I saw that Neg Earth were responsible for the show - whoever it was, that was a job well done.

I haven't managed to see this show yet, but it's on my to do list.

The LD was Tim Routledge, and he often works with Neg Earth, so it wouldn't surprise me if they supplied the kit.

it was the impossibility of unwinding 30 odd years of market integration in less than say 30 years - even given maximum goodwill on either side - that put me firmly on the remain side.

Possibly the best description of how I feel about the subject

This is a link to an online presentation by Stuart McPherson of KB Event, a large UK based event trucking company about the issues surrounding moving equipment into and around the EU post Brexit.

Stuart knows his stuff, and presents without drama or hysteria about the very practical issues that Brexit has caused. Well worth an hour of your time if you previously moved kit around Europe.

aside from brexit anyone crossing boarders at the moment has to have covid tests plus there's a dramatically reduced flights network - on first look sending anyone from the uk is complicated.

Indeed, don't envy anyone trying to move crew around right now.

Any suggestions for crew (grunts to load 2 lorries) for a day in Eastern France near the Swiss boarder; I'd rather get someone local to do it than try getting UK crew across boarders at the moment.

Lots of the UK crewing agencies will have EU citizens on their books, almost certainly could send appropriate crew if asked. Obviously it would be a lot cheaper to find local crew locally but it might be an option.

By the looks of it the original 102 had the box section at the base only http://www.theatrecrafts.com/archive/albumviewer.php?id=28&page=8&type=a the later ones were as the OP http://www.theatrecrafts.com/archive/albumviewer.php?id=37&page=33&type=a

Thanks for clarifying it, there seem to have been two very distinct lanterns that have been called Patt 102 at different times these are the later version for sure.

I still think that this might have not been a Strand designed item but either bought in or licensed, it looks very like Arri or possibly Mole Richardson, the stand shown on that catalogue page is definitely Mole Richardson.

Is that the first use of mazak castings by Strand?

Not sure, I don't know where it fits in the timeline.

Looks vaguely reminiscent of some ARRI lanterns, but is definitely marked as Strand. Could be something built under licence perhaps. No idea really!

If it wasn't for the Strand logo, I would suggest it was very similar to a Kliegel fresnel that I saw in a Control Booth post.

Quite different, the one I am asking about looks like a cast body, this Kliegel is not.

I recently saw some old Strand lights on eBay although they were removed from sale very quickly.

I thought I knew the older Strand lights reasonably well, but I din't recognise these and can't find them in the Strand Archive.

Anyone know what they are?

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Here are some pictures of both the original reflector and the LED conversion which does away with it.

They look nice!

What power are they and how do they compare with original lamp?

And I may be looking for some original holders

The LED fittings are from the BLOB range by Mr Resistor. Frankly I can't remember exactly which variant I used as it was supplied by the customer.

They were fitted tight to the back of the lens, using the original 3 fixing points with larger washers. The L shaped bit of aluminium was to support the transformer.

You couldn't really use them as a stage light. They were purely decorative, and gave usable light in an office environment, but certainly not up to stage use.

I've got the chance of a patt 123 lamp - which will complete the planned (and unplanned collection) - but it has no lamp holder or reflector. Does anyone have one they can sell me, or perhaps point me in the right direction to buy one please?

I should have all these bits as I removed them from a batch of 123s I fitted LEDs into for an interior design project a few years ago. They will be in a "safe place" in one of three workshops so may take a while to find.

Here are some pictures of both the original reflector and the LED conversion which does away with it.

I presume Jands still do Vista, which is very Windowsy away from the desks.

Vista was bought by Chroma-Q from Jands a couple of years ago.

 

As people say, no light came out of them and those that were sprayed gold for venues like the Albery (now the Noel Coward) the shutters were immovable.

 

 

Back in the 80's I worked occasionally at the Donmar shop in Shorts Gardens, and Donmar Hire.

Anything from hire going to an Alberry theatre FOH had to be painted gold. There was a story that a previous tech on being told to spray some 264's gold had forgotten to mask or remove the lenses... This wasn't noticed until rigged apparently, when even less than usual light came out the end!

Since there's currently more chance of finding carrots on the moon than finding a period stand,

I have a few assorted period stands in the "projects to be completed one day - honest" pile... I've messaged you.

The 823 and 813 is advertised as a profile spot in the 1979 datasheet/brochure and the 1980 catalogue, and I remember them in use as profiles. It just has some funny prismatic lens.

Oops, you are correct, it's described as a stepped prismatic lens, not a fresnel! The shutters should have been a giveaway too. Next time I'll look at the data sheets and not rely on memory :-)

 

The balance issue with the 23N mk1 was solved as well.

Ah yes, forgot about that, we used to hang a few hook clamps on the handle as a counterbalance :-)

IIRC the real 23N was a different beast, with a long straight front body & a handle at the back...

 

This is what I recall being an 823. Well, the long straight front body, at least. The Strand Archive has an entry for such too.

823 is a fresnel

I think initially 23N was an alternative lens tube to the normal short one. At some point, the same casting as the 823, with a PC lens and a handle became the Patt 23N MkII.

Incidentally, have any of you ever seen a 23h?

Yes, usually seen with an N lens to make a basic followspot.

I think I have a handle in my box of Patt bits.

There are 3 variants of Patt 23 that use the standard lens tube which has two lens positions:

Patt 23 uses a 3 1/2" x 5" lens in the front, and a spill ring at the back.

Patt 23W uses a 3 1/2" x 5" lens in the front, and another 3 1/2" x 5" lens at the back.

Patt 23F uses a 3 1/2" x 4" Fresnel lens at the front, and a spill ring at the back.

I used to work occasionally for an LD that had a box of spre lenses, it wasn't uncommon to have to add the second lens into the lens tube at the top of a Tallescope to gain a little extra spread!

I can't think of a common fresnel with a 3 1/2" lens, minuette and acclaim are both 4 1/2" I think, and they are the smallest generlly avilable.