3guk Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Anyone understand how the fade times on the fat frog 1 work ? Not had long to play with it but the fade times didnt seem to work. I have just moved from the sirius 48 or what ever it was called. It seems radically different and in the 10 minutes I had to play with it couldnt understand it. Anyone able to explain from a 48 users point of view. its just we have a touring theatre in soon and they have asked for someone that understands the board as usual. Since we have just upgraded no one has a clue !! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bright spark Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 IIRC, find the cue, then use the ^ or down arrow to get to the appropiate column. Then either using + or - or the keyboard, put in the fade time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
si pie Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 contact zero 88 and speak to a guy called Kieth. He runs Regular training days on the fat frog. Very Useful! HTH Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Take a look here for a dodgy animation I made to try and clarify this. Basically the difference between the Sirrius and the Fat Frog is that the Frog range do timings for the cue you are running, whereas the Sirrius did timings for a cue in and out. So, on the Fat Frog, if you set the time for Cue2 to 10 seconds up and down, it will take the channels from Cue 1 down in 10 seconds and the channels in Cue2 up in 10 seconds. Make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew C Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 CUE 1 5down/10up Cue 2 60down/1up Cue 3 So between Cue 1 and 2, the lights going down will do so in 5 seconds, those going up will do so in 10. These times are recorded with Cue 2. Think of each cue as the transition into the new "look"... This subject really screwed with my brain when I first met a memory desk all those years ago. I still twitch when the Minack's Strand M24 is mentioned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3guk Posted October 13, 2005 Author Share Posted October 13, 2005 Thanks for the help !! I understand now should be able to use it tomorrow now !! Sorry so used to the old 48 its a whole new world !! What does shot mean ? And LTP fade ? Does ltp fade mean the speed at which the colours ect change with movers ? I am so sorry about sounding like an idiot I am more of a sound person and have only really used analogue desks before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew C Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 What does LTP fade mean ?LTP = Latest Take Precedence It means that unless you expressly tell your scroller to change colour, it won't run to the end each time you fade to black. HTP = Highest Take Precedence Your lantern will be as bright as the highest fader controlling it no matter whether that is the main playback, a sub, or an effect. Hmm... Me thinks that a question has been edited out somewhere in the time it took me to answer it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3guk Posted October 13, 2005 Author Share Posted October 13, 2005 I still dont really understand LTP why is its default set to 3 then on the frog ? Surely you would wnat it set to 0 so that the colour scrollers didnt do anything ? Could you also explain what dwell means too ?CUE 1 5down/10up Cue 2 60down/1up Cue 3 So between Cue 1 and 2, the lights going down will do so in 5 seconds, those going up will do so in 10. These times are recorded with Cue 2. Think of each cue as the transition into the new "look"... Does that also mean that between cues 2 and 3 the lights from cue 2 will take 60s to go down and the lights for cue 3 will take 1 second to go up ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 With respect, 3guk, all these answers could be found by reading the manual - found here. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew C Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Does that also mean that between cues 2 and 3 the lights from cue 2 will take 60s to go down and the lights for cue 3 will take 1 second to go up ?Thats right! A dwell, depending on the desk and I don't know the Frog, inserts a pause. For example, you could fade a light up, wait 10 secs and then fade down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potassium Neuf Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 I have read through all of the above posts in this thread and not all the explanations are strictly accurate :) If you have any questions about memories, fade times, LTP operation, dwell times etc. on the Fat Frog then please post them on the Zero 88 Product Support Forum. There is a category there for the Frog Series of desks CLICK HERE I suspect that many of your questions will already have been asked, and indeed answered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3guk Posted October 16, 2005 Author Share Posted October 16, 2005 Thanks for all of your help no doubt I would have worked it out myself !! Such quick replies, I should have probably read the manual but thats not manuals are for is it ?? :** laughs out loud **: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.