sam.henderson Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Hi All, Am using a Jem Glaciator for a low fog effect for a show in about a month or so and wondered what people thought of it/ comments etc. Also what's the difference between the two fluids you can use the B2 ans the C3. Many Thanks, Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timpman19 Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Hi Used one of these in a production of JCS, very large output, easily affected by the slightest breeze though, had a different effect from it every night. Overall really nice machine, takes a while to find the correct location to place it but its worth it, put it in as many places as possible and see which looks best, also work out all possible draft areas, doors windows, make sure they are all closed before you use the effect. Don't know about the fluids though. HTH Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scjb Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Never used them personally, but seen them used on a number of gigs where production didn't want to pay for LSG's or similar, so got the lampies to supply these. I've yet to see them work well! The smoke seems to be very thin and nowhere near cold enough to hug the ground. Sounds like the previous poster has had a bit more luck with them than I have observed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timpman19 Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Nope when we hired one it was thick ground hugging smoke!There is a setting on it that chages the output from light to think (as in the smoke desity and amount) maybe the people at your gigs hadnt discovered this and had it set to low? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenWall Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Used one last summer, excellent machines, however as Josh states very reactive to slight breezes. I also had an issue with the heat on stage which was making the smoke rise at a very rapid rate. Very large machine... careful location planning a must! Also used one of these before, quite different and needed an endless stock of ice cubes! Quite effective though. Ben. Sorry... learning as I goAntari Moderation Note: Broken WWW link removed. Posts also merged, please use the EDIT facility when adding information to your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcT Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Just to second the comments about the size of the machine - its big!It also needs a 32A single phase supply. Marc EDIT:If you were at this year's ABTT, there was one on display at the Martin stand. I was interested in hiring one for Edinburgh, but in the end we went with real dry ice & a Le Maitre Pea Souper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickwoolley Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Hi Sam, Hope it is going well for you. Just found this: Jem Scroll right to the bottom, it explains it quite well. B2 is the way to go in my opinion. HTH Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Baldwin Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 It also needs a 32A single phase supply.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Check with the hire company on that one - we had one from PRG (Greenford) last year with a 32A 3 phase connection... The effect is frothier than dry ice - you do need to spend some time experimenting with multiple outlet positions, as it moves fast and doesn't blend across the stage so easily. It's much more easily swept up by cast moving on stage:http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/6009/glaciator0ce.th.jpgThe actress is only about 5' tall, but even so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomLyall Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 They require 32a Single Phase. No idea why one would be supplied with a three phase plug. :) Manual suggests 23A maximum current. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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