DanSteely Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Hi All, I'm looking for a cheaper alternative to Idenden Brushcoate to add texture to some (wooden) steel girder scenery for a set. Idenden is great but expensive at £68.00 + shipping +VAT from Flints. I was considering using some generic type of Artex instead.. Any ideas or recommendations would be welcome. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImagineerTom Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 You're going to struggle to beat £6.80/litre for something not quite as good. It all depends on precisely what your use is - something that's going to be seen up-close and manhandled a lot really needs a proper thixotropic - but if it's a static piece at a distance that's going to be junked after a couple of weeks then there's plenty of old-school techniques that will produce a similar effect. PVA glue and sawdust (dust, not shavings) mixes in gives a great fine texture. With water-based paints I've mixed in wallpaper paste granules; small fine-grain granules gives bump texture similar to years of painting, bigger flakes gives a great blown/rusting texture. BUT its really not at all durable so it needs to be something that's for a fixed set piece for a defined run length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanSteely Posted October 11, 2013 Author Share Posted October 11, 2013 Hi Tom, I didn't realise the tub was 10L - as I don't think it's stated on the Flints site.. As I need to order some of their great paint and some wooden rivets I think I'll go for it. I should have said that this is for a school prod of We Will Rock You and the set won't be toured, but may be reused. I too have used the sawdust/flour/polenta additives and have always added a fair bit of PVA to give it a bit of resilience. I still have some unused iron power from Flints from a previous production and plan to use it for the 'steel'. Do you have any experience of creating rust effects? I have not found any good info on the WWW - yet.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImagineerTom Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 brown paint, 2 different shades, dabbed on with a dry sponge - dense in the middle, feathered to the edges = rust on stage. More important is the placing - things go rusty at joints, corners, edges and ends; a circle of rust in the middle of a flat space just looks wrong, rust around a dent or a corner looks right. The biggest secret (as with all scenic effects) is that less is more - do just enough to create the impression of what it is you're trying to replicate; distance and audiences imagination will create the rest for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_s Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 a quick google throws up this which seems to offer a somewhat better price than the usual theatrical suppliers like Flints or Russel and Chapel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danburns Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 http://www.flints.co.uk/acatalog/Iron_Powder_for_Rust_Effects.html suggests spraying vinegar to make the iron powder rust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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