Manuel1975 Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Hi there, On the specs of the wing it says: 2048 parameters and the wing has 2 physical DMX outputs. To me it sounds as if 2048 parameters is 4 universes but my gut feelings says it not? ;) And when you ad a 2 port node on pc pro the parameter count goes up to 3073. Is that really only 3 universes!? (damn that thing is expensive) Can somebody explain the parameters vs universes thingy? Cheers, Manuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac.calder Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 On an MA, every "parameter" on a fixture is treated as 16 bit. So on a moving head you may have the following channels: Pan (16bit - 2 channels)Tilt (16bit - 2 channels)Dimmer (8bit - 1 channel)Cyan (8bit - 1 channel)Magenta (8bit - 1 channel)Yellow (8bit - 1 channel) So the entire fixture uses 8 DMX channels, but for the MA to process, it is only 6 parameters - 6 different things it needs to think about. 2048 parameters will allow you to patch 4 universes of dimmer channels - 4 x 512 - however if you were using our basic mover described above you could get 341 of them patched in - which would need 6 universes of DMX (you are only using a third of the last universe). But you are not limited to 6 universe - you could spread these fixtures out over 20, 30, 40 different universes - after all, universes are a way of organising fixtures on a cable run - unlike smaller desks, most large desks don't count things in universes - what it cares about is how many actual parameters (things) the desk has to deal with. The desk only has 2 physical outs - so if you want to run 4 universes you will need to use something like an art-net node for your additional outputs. With the 2 port node you could run _6_ universes of 8 bit fixtures - or potentially 12 universes of 16 bit fixtures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel1975 Posted July 3, 2012 Author Share Posted July 3, 2012 ok, Did not expect that answer. I was quite disappointed with the limitation of 2 physical outputs but if I can connect my ELC node and spread the 2048 parameters over say 4 universes this might be enough in 99% of all venues... Thanks for that insight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel1975 Posted July 4, 2012 Author Share Posted July 4, 2012 Then again:This site does not mention anything related to distributing parameters over other than the MA hardware outputs... http://wing.malighting.com/parametercount.html Hmmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac.calder Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Well it is impossible to pull 2048 ANYTHINGS out of an MA wing - it has 2 physical outputs - so 1024 channels available - the MA wing acts like a hardware key which enables the software to output DMX. The company I work for owns 9 or so wings (with the intention of buying more) so trust me, you can output over artnet. All you do is add a second IP address to your network interface in the 2.x.x.x range and enable ArtNet output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel1975 Posted July 6, 2012 Author Share Posted July 6, 2012 OK, thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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