Edlight Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 Hello Can anyone tell me what the following qualifications allow you to do: City and Guilds 2381 - 16th edition wiring requlationsCity and Guilds 2377 002 - Portable appliance testingCity and Guilds 2391 - Inspection & TestingEAL Domestic Electrical Installer Qualification Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lightnix Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 It might be a good idea to contact the IEE. They produced the 16th Edition and should be able to offer you some fairly good guidance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Foster Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 I seem to remember someone saying that the 16th edition wiring regs qualification just taught you how to read the book - but I may be remembering wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eventspark Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 The fact that anyone can enrol onto the 16th Edition training course and sit the exam just goes to show its a bit of a rubber stamp qualification in the electricial industry and really means nothing on its own.Yes it does teach you how to read and find certain subjects and references in the 16th Edition publication...and you might learn something electrical along the way if your lucky. As lightnix says, contact the IEE for full explanations or visit their website. When you talk about what qualifications "allow" you to do, well the big qualifying word in the electrical industry is the "competent person".The definition of this as I understand it is a combination of learned knowledge (ie. qualifications) and practical experience. If your a lighting tech looking for qualifications to allow you to do more electrical type work, I advise starting from the bottom and doing your Part 1 & 2 first to get your foundation. Its a too complex subject to jump in at a high level without the understanding and I see too many lighting techs out there in this industry who know a bit about some electrical subjects and attempting to do electrical work that is beyond their competency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikienorth Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 Speaking as one of many time served electricians who work in this lovely industry, the part 1&2 mentioned is the City & Guilds 2360 qualification which I earnt as part of an apprenticeship.If you are looking at qualifications in this sort of field and are of the correct age, although it is a long time out to take, the serving of an apprenticeship is not to be dismissed.I am currently a Deputy Electrican at a large receiving venue in the North of england at age 24, with an electrical apprenticeship being my main level of qualification. All the time I was an apprentice I worked at weekends and in amy wn time, and sometimes took time off from my job, to continue work in this field, often unpaid, but all worthwhile.3 years after finishing my apprenticeship I am where I am now. The 2381 and 2391 are supplementary qualifications designed for electricians to increase their specialisation in designing instalations (2381) and verifying installations (2391)the pat testing one I have never done nor needed to do, yet am an experienced and competent (that magic word again) pat tester. The other one, the EAL or whatever it is I have never heard of. It is not a bad idea to consider an apprenticeship, for the following reasons.You come out with alot of knowledge no college can give you.You get paid to learnYou DONT HAVE TO PAY FOR THE COURSESYou can always earn money, even when you can't get the kind of work you want, a building site will always take you for a fair (£9-15/hour) wage. It worked for me, and many others.Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewart Newlands Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 City and Guilds 2381 - 16th edition wiring requlationsCity and Guilds 2377 002 - Portable appliance testingCity and Guilds 2391 - Inspection & Testing These are short corses for people who have an engineering background. With most things electrical what you are alowed to do is to work within your competance and to comply with the electricity at work regulations 1989. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Bonney Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 Has anyone come across any kind of short course or distance learning type thing which maybe isn't as proficient as C&G 2360 but maybe acts as a stepping stone? I have been looking for something to back up my acquired knowledge but can only turn up C&G. Unfortunately I am not in a position to pursue that at the moment but short of revising my old physics notes I can't seem to find anything useful! Kate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikienorth Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 The Chief LX at our venue recently did the IEE Short Course which may be exactly what you are looking for, but it is horrendously expensive, a 5 day practical exam to finalise an apprenticeship costs as much as that 2 day course!They have other short courses which may suit, search short course on the iee.org website for more info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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