AV Doug Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 I understand the principles of resistance of headphones but which version of the beyer dynamic DT100's are people using in the industry...16 or 400? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Remo Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 If it's going to be a pair of desk or sudio only cans, then 400's. If you are ever going to want to use them on a portable music device then 16's, as 400's on any laptop/mp3/cd/md/ player I've ever owned have been rather quiet. My pairs are 400's for studio use, if I'm out on tour I take my Sennheiser HD25's so I can use them on both desk and computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pisquee Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 Even on some desks, and headphone outs of radio receivers (when doing radio mic tech) my 400s have been too quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 I'd tend to agree - 400Ohm just never has sufficient volume from many items of modern kit. If the volume knob has to be left on max, then it's not enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbsy Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 I tend to find that both selections are a bit wrong. The 16 ohm version is definitely on the low impedance side--on much professional gear, you're operating near the low end of the headphone knob, but 400 ohms is on the high side. It's not coincidence that an awful lot of pro grade headphones are in the 75-150 ohm range. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handyandi Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 One of my only duff purchases in my early years was a pair of 8ohm Dt100, which go very loud but on the negative side tend to drive some device headphone amps into distortion. Still use them but with caution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV Doug Posted May 22, 2010 Author Share Posted May 22, 2010 I tend to find that both selections are a bit wrong. The 16 ohm version is definitely on the low impedance side--on much professional gear, you're operating near the low end of the headphone knob, but 400 ohms is on the high side. It's not coincidence that an awful lot of pro grade headphones are in the 75-150 ohm range. Bob This is exactly what I thought Bob. Currently I use Sennheiser HD25's which are around the 75 mark (if I remember right) which are fine for using with most desks. Then for sh*ts and giggles I also have a pair of Grado Labs SR80's for listening to music (around 30ish I think). Perhaps the 16 version is the better way to go - at least it can be turned down - or even look for a different set? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Alcock Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 I also used to find 400 Ohm DT100s too quiet on my Soundcraft and A&H Deks. A couple of years ago I bought a pair of DT150s (250 Ohm) and they both sound better and go louder. Actually plenty loud enough. Problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbsy Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 I suspect the main reason for the 400 ohm version is for use in studio monitoring situations where the impedence is high enough to let you parallel several off a single headphone amp. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Beech Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 As Bob rightly says, it's for the ability to run several pairs together. Many many headphone amps start to complain below about 100Ohms. Particularly the multichannel ones. I have 400ohm versions and they are pretty much fine for most things industry related. A colleague has a pair of 16ohm ones and alot of desks give up on them above a certain level. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyP1955 Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 Look at the rated impedance. Look at the rated sensitivity (which will be rated in mW). Figure out what the drive voltage is at the rated sensitivity. Compare the drive voltages of various headsets (compensating for any differences in SPL rating). This will give you an idea as to which are likely to have a problem with common headphone amps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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