Fat Frog and Strand 200,

[jamed2017]

Hey folks,

Right a few weaks ago we got some LED PARS, now hoping to controll them through the fatfrog and fixture personalitys I wouldnt be making this post, But on the FatFrog, you CANT control LED colour mixing fixtures on a HTP Basis, without putting them on channels, now each can 6 channels each, plus 48 conventional dimmers. You run out of channels.

 

So I intend to stick the LED's on the strand 200, and stick them under submasters, as it has latched submaster page's. But I was currious wheather its possible to use the strand as a remote board for the Frog?

 

And any ideas how to go about it? if its even possible.

 

Thanks

Jimmy

[HobitLight]

I don't think it is possible to use the Strand 200 with is as the Fat Frog doesn't have DMX in.

 

If you're low on conventional channels then you could do a patch if you still have a few channels remaining (SUPER USER > Desk Setup > Patch Functions > Manual Patch) and only patch the three RGB channels if that's all you want to use. Also, could some of the fixtures go onto the same DMX address so you don't need as many channels to use, though you won't have individual contol over all of the fixtures.

[steve h]

if the patching idea doesnt work and you have enough DMX you can always just run 2 desks side by side! - though you've probably figured this one out already

 

Steve

[Stuart91]

"DMX merge" units do exist if you are constrained to one DMX line from the desks to the stage.

 

Also, some smaller desks do have DMX - the Jester does, IIRC, and it might be an option to run the LEDs on something like that?

[timtheenchanteruk]

have you contacted zero88 asbout this??

 

We have sucesfully run Thomas, Pulsar and some cheepo china import LED pars from the frog, infact we ran the thomas ones before the fixture came out for them, I beleive we ran them as a 3 channel scroller, but cant be sure, it was zero88 that gave us the suggestion.

[HobitLight]

I beleive we ran them as a 3 channel scroller

But that would be LTP, not HTP

But on the FatFrog, you CANT control LED colour mixing fixtures on a HTP Basis, without putting them on channels

[paulears]

Do you need to have control separately? If you're using them for washing a cyc (as I do) then you could cut the dimmer channel count down by having them on the same address?

[Graham NZ]

Hey folks,

Right a few weaks ago we got some LED PARS, now hoping to controll them through the fatfrog and fixture personalitys I wouldnt be making this post, But on the FatFrog, you CANT control LED colour mixing fixtures on a HTP Basis, without putting them on channels, now each can 6 channels each, plus 48 conventional dimmers. You run out of channels.

Hi

 

Why do you want to control them on an HTP basis. If you run them as a fixture you have control of the colours as LTP making live mixing on subs easier and you have HTP control of the dimmers so you can still fade them in cues etc.

 

Interested in your way of working.

 

Best

Graham

Zero 88

[Tomo]

Why do you want to control them on an HTP basis. If you run them as a fixture you have control of the colours as LTP making live mixing on subs easier and you have HTP control of the dimmers so you can still fade them in cues etc.

Because the Fat Frog doesn't do 'Virtual' Intensity attributes.

 

The vast majority of LED fixtures have R,G,B (plus macro) attributes - with no dedicated Intensity attribute.

To control these with proper palettes etc the console has to create a 'virtual' Intensity attribute that masters the output of the RGB attributes.

 

If this isn't done, then recalling a palette instantly jumps the brightness of the fixture to the palette levels.