Martin Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 I tend to prefer: M10 boltWasherTrunion armNylon washerHook clampWasherSpring washerAero (stiff) nut This way you can do up the nut as tight as you want, and the nylon washer gives you enough slippage to focus the lantern tool free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete McCrea Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 If the lanterns are gonna be toured in a meat rack, then Nylocks all the way. I've seen several profiles part company with the hook during the journey as the nut is vibrated of the bolt, ending up in the bottom of the rack. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_s Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 Definitely sounds like Whitworth... I know their more English than Metric but Ugh!I know that metric come in nice easy numbers, but lets not forget the credit due to mr whitworth - if it wasn't for him and his standardisation, we would possibly still be custom-making bolts and screws for every occasion!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robloxley Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 Definitely sounds like Whitworth... I know their more English than Metric but Ugh!I know that metric come in nice easy numbers, but lets not forget the credit due to mr whitworth - if it wasn't for him and his standardisation, we would possibly still be custom-making bolts and screws for every occasion!!! Sir Whitworth, to give him his due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefy Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 I tend to prefer: M10 boltWasherTrunion armNylon washerHook clampWasherSpring washerAero (stiff) nut This way you can do up the nut as tight as you want, and the nylon washer gives you enough slippage to focus the lantern tool free.I am thinking of changing my entire lighting stock to the nylon washer option, is the anyone else who currently uses this system who could either recommend it or say a big fat no to it?The taking off of hardware to fit lanterns onto boom arms, stands etc is not an issue as we use de-rig arms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olistockman Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 We use the nylock option on our 'fixed' stock (the kit we take to all our shows) and it works a treat, make sure you get the tension right, to allow enough for focusing, but not enough for free play, and it's perfect. Wingnuts are still on the kit that only sees the light of day occasionally, as it's easier to store them with hookclamps off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 I am thinking of changing my entire lighting stock to the nylon washer option, is the anyone else who currently uses this system who could either recommend it or say a big fat no to it?The taking off of hardware to fit lanterns onto boom arms, stands etc is not an issue as we use de-rig armsIf you use de-rig arms, then I guess the only time you'll need to take hook clamps off is if you need to fit a spigot to put the lantern onto a floor stand or a turtle base. So as long as your clamps are going to live on the lanterns pretty much permanently, with only an occasional need for removal in order to fit a spigot, I can't see any real disadvantage to using Nylocks. Let us know what you finally decide, and (over time) whether you think it was the right decision to make! :** laughs out loud **: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 After having tried the nylon washer & aero nut option on our 2k's, floods and FOH rig for the last 6 months, I am sold on the idea. Sparks hire, send out all their lanterns with this option (where I stole the idea :** laughs out loud **: ). Having recently bought some d-rig arms, I am now going to convert the remaining of our lanterns. Of course the downside to using d-rig arms is that you can't get the lantens as close together than you can with a standard boom arm. But you can usualy get away with staggering them. Just depends how picky the LD is :** laughs out loud **: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robloxley Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Of course the downside to using d-rig arms is that you can't get the lantens as close together than you can with a standard boom arm.And they're expensive, and when someone does them up too tight the threads strip and you have to angle-grind them off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olistockman Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Does anyone have a photograph of de-rig arms? I'm desperately trying to identify some odds and sods lying around our storage facility! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theatretechie Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Hi All, I know this is not quite what this descussion has been about. BUT, to fix hook clamps (Wingnuts, Etc) Try here www.wingnutspanner.co.ukI have 2 and have never looked back. So much better that those crap B N Cherries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Does anyone have a photograph of de-rig arms? The bottom item in this picture ...http://cgi.www.doughty-engineering.co.uk/theatre/products/photo/T57340.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olistockman Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 Those are the puppies, cheers Gareth, my pile of metal nightmare has just become considerably easier! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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