minimac Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 I have been offered some pearl river pilot 150's for £500 each. I have been told that they are brighter than minimacs and are faster. is this so and what other, if any advantages does it have. thanks Minimacs are priced at £995. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 There doesn't seem to be much in the way of difference between them. The Pilot 150 has a 'whole' yoke (i.e. 2 arms) so it might be quicker because of this (weight spread evenly for instance). They both use HTI150 lamps so it's probably not going to be that big a difference in brightness, just really one will edge the other edge if it's got the better optics. Give both the manuals a good read and see if this helps you at all - and also see if you can play with the fixtures before purchase, might help you decide. HTHStu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny baby Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 I dont like either of the units, and im sure they are both the same brightness. I prefer the ROBEXT160 it out performs both of the ones you mention in every aspect Robe they have recently done practicall tests on all the heads within this cat. pearl river pilot 150ROBE XT160ACME spot queenEVL mini spot 150rChauvet Legend 150r and ROBE has come out on top again. the price for the ROBE heads sits inbetween those you have been quoted, you can get the head for about £650 if ya shop around vince Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 pearl river pilot 150ROBE XT160ACME spot queenEVL mini spot 150rChauvet Legend 150rAnd the reason they didn't test the MiniMac was... er...? Edit: Although the MiniMacs list at £995, I imagine you could find a fair bit knocked off if you shop around... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny baby Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 And the reason they didn't test the MiniMac was... er...? they did I forgot to put it on the list, The mini mac came in 3rd. 1 robe xt 1602 pearl river pilot3 mini mac vince Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 I dont like either of the units, and im sure they are both the same brightness. I prefer the ROBEXT160 it out performs both of the ones you mention in every aspect Robe they have recently done practicall tests on all the heads within this cat. pearl river pilot 150ROBE XT160ACME spot queenEVL mini spot 150rChauvet Legend 150r and ROBE has come out on top again. the price for the ROBE heads sits inbetween those you have been quoted, you can get the head for about £650 if ya shop around vinceWhile I don't doubt that Vince's opinions on the Robe heads are perfectly valid (indeed, from what I've seen of them I'm mighty impressed myself), it should perhaps be pointed out that, as Vince has mentioned on this forum previously, the company that he works for have some sort of sponsorship/endorsement deal with Robe - so his opinions are probably not quite as objective as they might be! (No offence intended, Vince, I don't doubt for one moment that you know what you're talking about when it comes to Robe moving heads - but I thought I should point this out so that everyone's aware of the fact that you have more than one reason for telling everyone how good Robe are ... ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalmatthew Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 Robe they have recently done practicall tests on all the heads within this cat. pearl river pilot 150ROBE XT160ACME spot queenEVL mini spot 150rChauvet Legend 150r and ROBE has come out on top again.So are you saying that Robe tested all the units or that you did. If Robe tested them then they are hardly an objective source for information about there own products. I am not suggesting that they lied about the results, however it would be realitivly easy to gear the questions so that your product came out on top consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny baby Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 So are you saying that Robe tested all the units or that you did. If Robe tested them then they are hardly an objective source for information about there own products. I am not suggesting that they lied about the results, however it would be realitivly easy to gear the questions so that your product came out on top consistently. the test was carried out by an un-partial group of LX techs. and it was featurered in a magazine a few weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 Which magazine does this impartial test appear in? I'd be interested to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olistockman Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 I'm currently using 2* Spot 160XT's2* Spot 150XT's (no gobo rotation)4* DJScan 250'sAnd will happilly say that they are some of the best (small!) moving luminaires I've used, as yet I haven't had a single problem, and they are ideal for small to medium shows, and I'm sure you could find uses in larger shows, but they don't cut it with 575w and 1200w luminaires!They knock 7 bells out of minimacs, and we got them considerably cheaper too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro Posted March 14, 2004 Share Posted March 14, 2004 I used the pilot 150's and pilot 300 's together at an event and found the 150's to be not that far behind. I couldnt really noticeably tell the difference in light output between the two (Focus and Prism function on the Pilot 300's not on the Pilot 150) I found the 150's quite quick, fast and responsive. Although it has to be said, Vinny has a point, the Robe units are also quite good! I seem to remeber changing the gobo's in the 150's to be quick tricky. If you would like a demonstration perhaps youd like to get in touch. Richard Rayner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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