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We are doing a "Battle of The Bands" in June this year, and we are looking for 2 Projections scrrens/projectors or Large LCD/Plasmas, one for each side of the stage, to be fed with live feeds from 2 cameras, and live vision mixing between them, with a few visual effects (Think Bohemian Rhapsody etc)

 

I have been asked to gather prices, but without knowing the proper term for this, it makes Googling etc very difficult,

 

So, what is it actually called, and if anyone in the Leeds/Bradford Area does it, please PM me and I can supply further details.

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Do you want a full production solution with crew, or just want to dry hire the bits and mix it yourself?

 

Either way, there are plenty of hire companies out there that do AV Hire etc. I'm not local so I won't suggest companies myself.

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In general, it's called 'IMAG' - if you bodge it with cadged kit, it can be cheap - but 2 cameras and a vision mixer mean a minimum of 3 people - and that's where cost comes in. 3 people for a day plus kit will be £750 ish but much depends on rigging and the exact kit.
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I'd echo Paulears comments, and add that IMAG comes from Image Magnification, essentially making the person bigger on screen than in real life, and that the people are the costly bit. Talented camera ops and vision mixers are hard to come by, and hence cost more.

 

The basic level is two consumer level cameras with no ability to be 'Racked' (exposure and White Balance to be controlled from the Rack by a Rack Engineer) mixed, through to pro level cameras complete with studio back ends and appropriate vision mixers and signal processing and monitoring equipment. Ultimately Pay you money and take your choice....

 

As for companies, well we could do it, but we're miles away. Your more likely to get a better price from someone closer! Try Reelife in Halton Lancs. I know several good friends/colleagues that rate them, but have never personally worked with them. failing that a Google search may be your best bet.

 

Pete.

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It might be worth contacting LSTV ( http://lstv.uk-students.org.uk/index.php ), who are Leeds student TV station. They may have kit you could possibly hire or competent crew to operate cameras/mix, who may well be willing to work for less than the pro rates for the experience/CV content. or perhaps even for some beer...
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Cheers, I will try the LSTV lot.

 

We probably have most of the kit round school, projectors, cameras, but would be defintaly short of a vision mixer, and all the cabling that goes with it, And the main problem as I said before, there just aint enough staff willing to be involved to run, or even supervise the IMAG ops.

Hence the need of crew.

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  • 3 months later...

maybe a bit late now but you could easily do this without a great cost:

 

Download the free trail of isadora - run two cameras into a laptop - split out onto two projectors - connect a load of effects to a mouse watcher and use your mouse as a crossfader to mix the two signals - the isadora manual that comes witht he demo is very detailed if you get stuck!

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Professional camera channels will cost u £1000 per day each from an AV company, usually broadcast companies are a bit cheaper.

I own a basic 6 channel component PPu (portable production unit)...The kind of effects u mention will need a digital vision mixer(thos...e famous effects were Panasonic mx50 type...** laughs out loud **) and non linear edit suite based around adobe premier cs3 and a matrox rtx2 card, with encore for dvd creation and various bts for audio capture and editing.

 

 

crew as mentioned is £250 per day each(usually for 10hrs)...2 cameramen, racks engineer, vision mixer....or a talented chap who doesn't mind racking and cutting .

 

projection would depend onthe size of screens etc and whether front of rear projected..I've got plenty of contacts and may be able to assist..

 

there is also a OB (outside broadcast truck) for hire via ebay @£600 per day ex crew.

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YSL Videowall Hire do this kind of thing; their main expertise is in (suprise suprise) videowalls and projection, but they have vision mixing and camera systems, and I'm almost certain they offer a full solution for your kind of situation.

 

I know they're based in York, but they certainly go anywhere; they were recently at a concert in Germany!

 

Linky

 

Charlie ;)

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It's probably too late for you now, but this is something that can be done well and cheaply by looking for a VJ, i.e. someone - or a group - who specialise in club and band visuals of exactly the sort you're looking for. They're not necessarily as professional as the solutions that have been posted on here, but you'd slash your costs massively, and most vjs are used to providing everything.

 

Give the guys at Alteriative Perspective a call, they're based in Huddersfield and work mostly in leeds, so they're local to you - http://www.alternativeperspective.co.uk/

 

They shouldn't break the bank and they should do a good job.

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Professional camera channels will cost u £1000 per day each from an AV company, usually broadcast companies are a bit cheaper.

 

I'd hope (and know where) to pick up a D50 camera channel for £400 ex VAT, and Component PPU for £750 ex VAT per day....

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if u don't mind, could u let me know where from..I use broadcast companies and they are not that cheap for a full broadcast channel (D50 or similar)..as I said I own a 6 channel component ppu, so thats never an issue for me, unless I run out of inputs (but usually have a matrix attached for that purpose)

 

Have a week long show coming up which needs 3 channels...so might save my client a few bob..

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