bugsymol Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 I have 12 color changing inteligent lamps. What is the tecnical term I should look for in lighting desk specs If I want to program fades on selected DMX channels. As you know if I use a fade on all the channels of a fixture it scrolls through the various colours to get to 0 and looks naf. bit like my spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 You need a desk that will allow you to program your colour channels on a LTP (Latest Takes Precedence) basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody74 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 Now I'm curious: are you looking to buy, or seeing if what you have will work? And to naf spelling, there's a spell-checker built in to the boards. -w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugsymol Posted April 25, 2007 Author Share Posted April 25, 2007 Now I'm curious: are you looking to buy, or seeing if what you have will work? And to naf spelling, there's a spell-checker built in to the boards. -w I'm looking to buy I know what I have is no good. I have a blondie tribute band (www.parallelblondie.com) We do 2x 45min spots. I want a desk that will give me 40 DMX ch control 12 fixtures (can be grouped down to 8) run in sequence 30 songs with a few changes in each song. There are 100's of desks that will fade between sceens or chases but thats no good. I dont want to spend over £400 as I'm not planning to light pink floyd. Last takes precedence? how does that work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimWebber Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 ... I dont want to spend over £400 as I'm not planning to light pink floyd. Last takes precedence? how does that work? I'm not at all sure you will get a decent LTP desk for that sort of money! A Pulsasr 18Ch. 2 preset will probably set you back £350? If you are running everything in sequence, then it is possible (But very very awkward, and consider doubling or tripling your programming time) is to program everything very carefully, ensuring that only the intensity channel is altered "Live", and any colour channels are only changed when the fixture is dark. It's a pain, but it can be done. PS. Imagine you do the following:1. Pull up a sub-master on which channel 10 is set to 5.2. Now, call a cue from memory, where channel 10 is at 73. Set the fader for channel 10 at 34. Set your grand master is set to 10 The output from channel 10 will be at 7 - ie Highest takes Precedence (HTP) As in step 2 If channel 10 is set to LTP, the channel output will be at 3 (ie the last action carried out) As in step 3 - It is worth noting that LTP channels are usually independent of any grand master. HTH Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugsymol Posted April 26, 2007 Author Share Posted April 26, 2007 Hi Jim thanks for that looks like I'm in the land of make believe expecting to much for too little. Looks like some tricky programing but I only have to do it once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peternewman Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 You may well be able to get a suitable PC based console for that kind of price range, assuming you have a PC available or can buy one. Have a look here for a list of consoles and dongles. In particular the Chamsys MagicQ may be worth looking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyro_gearloose Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 If you want a cheap PC-DMX interface and you are handy with a soldering iron, you could always build yourself one of these. Maplin sell them for about £60. However I'm not sure where you'd get the "raisin-core" solder (see the assembly manual page 3) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimWebber Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 If you want a cheap PC-DMX interface and you are handy with a soldering iron, you could always build yourself one of these. Maplin sell them for about £60. However I'm not sure where you'd get the "raisin-core" solder (see the assembly manual page 3) :) I the solder to handle high currants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyro_gearloose Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 Is the solder to handle high currants? Doh! Should have seen that one coming... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 I have 12 color changing inteligent lamps. ..... As you know if I use a fade on all the channels of a fixture it scrolls through the various colours to get to 0 and looks naf.Nobody has said this yet, but what are they. To get to off it scrolls through the colours, suggesting it doesn't actually do fades, but has colour wheel(s with a blank section - so if it can't actually fade, then all the clever programming won't do it - so, what have you got? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roryfm Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 Nobody has said this yet, but what are they. To get to off it scrolls through the colours, suggesting it doesn't actually do fades, .... My interpretation of the OP is that the channels conrolling the ML's attributes are being faded out at the end of a cue with all the other channels, as opposed to being left up - The solution could just be to only fade out the intensity channel for the cues, if your desk isn't set up to handle attributes. roryfm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 I'm thinking it could be that he has some colour changers based on a simple moving mirror, without the mirror. So it would be gobo, and colour wheel, with blackout probably on position 1 on one of the two channels? I didn't think he mentioned movers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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