P. Funk Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 nope. minimacs have 150W discharge lamps, which just aren't bright. you can get so much more for your money (a load of conventionals and dimmers for them) if you got the power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Chillman Posted January 30, 2004 Author Share Posted January 30, 2004 ok I will take that into consideration the main issue I have at the moment is a lack of a follow spot operator after the last one walking out in the show.** laughs out loud **. so would a moving yoke light be suitable? and operate it of a frog?Would this cost much more than a Follow spot to hire (bearing in mind we would have to hire the frog if we get the moving yoke) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalmatthew Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 It is possible but neither easy or recommended especially not on a frog. don't get me wrong I love the desk but due to the lack of a touch pad or tracker ball it is very hard work and goes wrong too easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SceneMaster Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 What do you mean that a minimac is no bright!!! The bulb may be low wattage but in a school they are plenty powerful they may not be bright for a theatre but for a school hall they are fine. My school's hall is massive and we can light half they hall with a 150watt minimac. It have a discharge bulb gives it a light output far greater than a bog standard halogen 150watt bulb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 Light half of the hall with a Minimac?! What lens have you got in it?! :( Any discharge source by it's nature gives more light than an equal tungsten-halogen source - I use the simple x4 formula to get a rough equiv - so in other words a 150w discharge source is roughly equal to 600w tungsten... Stu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SceneMaster Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 Correct the 4x rule. Yes half the hall, not well but the light will create a image size of half the hall if put on the stage at the front. :( No different lense and only the standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 And think of all the much nicer profiles/pars/fresnels you could have bought for the same price :( Stu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Chillman Posted January 30, 2004 Author Share Posted January 30, 2004 but surely if we used a minimac it would not be able to compete with the 1k fresnels we have? James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SceneMaster Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 Yes. maybe not quite as bright but I'm using a 1k par64 and the minimac will show up in it's beam. You may only use the minimac as a colour washer which can move (a bit like a par64 on a yoke) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjkerr Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 I think you should make sure you have a a good few washes before you go hiring in minimac's ok moving light are great and can make things feel magical but get the basic's right first becouse it's just plane stupied think it through do you want to see face's or just a gobo on the floor plus it will just be the mac standard gobo's somthing you would use in a rave not "Calamity Jane" look in to cleaver BACK LIGHT and if you still have this "urge" to hire somthing theres things I would put to better use like scrollers or FX projecters of the sky somthing cleaver and remember it's not "top of the pops". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjkerr Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 For colour washing which can be done with the profiles so that you cna use the gobos aswell. But if you want just colour washing hire the minimc wash version.A mini mac wash couldn't wash it's self and even if you got 20 of them you would be washing the stage in disco colours this also applys to the mini mac profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 I cannot agree more. Concentrate on your 'proper' washes first - 4 Mac 500s aren't going to a gobo wash a stage, and neither are 2 Mac 300s going to wash a stage. Build up a palette of decent washes, say 3 colours, tints (straw, CTC blue etc) and gobo before you even think of spending a ?0.02 on a mover (or 10!). And when using movers, try and make their use worthwhile and with a point to it. Otherwise you may as well pay yourself more ;) StuPS. Mind you first thing I'd do if I had some Movers for a theatre show is actually put some decent breakup gobos in them! :** laughs out loud **: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djbarryblue Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 Calamity Jane I have lite this show a couple of times now. Its not really a moving light show. Now is it ? I would have to say get your self some a good 3 colour wash, some side light a bit of back lite and if you got a cyc some nice sky colours oh and some western fluffy clouds :** laughs out loud **: Sorted. Bobs yer Uncle and Fannies yer aunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Chillman Posted February 1, 2004 Author Share Posted February 1, 2004 if you could go into a bit more detail on some of those ideas djbarryblue I would be very gratefull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 Well a couple of ideas that hit me are 4 cell flood bars and groundrows infront of the cyc, so you can either do some colour blends on the cyc, or have nice bold colours. Then get hold of some DHA clouds gobos (which ever particular ones take your fancy) and place in profiles with good optics (Source Four fixed beams for instance) and slap a bit of CTC blue in (so L201, 202, 203, 218) and place 2 on both ends of the cyc LX bar, and softly, and subtly defocus the clouds gobos on the cyc - then add in the colours (say a nice light blue at top going to deep blue at the bottom, or a nice sunset look), with the gobos and you'll have a pretty nice looking cyc. Stu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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