mydlight Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 Hello everybody Please help meFor the past years I´v been using MAC500, and now I have to make a big change in purchasing SGM Giotto 400 CMY at great conditions, but I have not had till now any reliable and independent information on these lights. Can any one give his/hers opinion. And experience? Thank you for your help! Regards CarlosPortugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Threader Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 Dear Carlos We have been using the SGM 400 CMY for a few months. So far they are proving to be reliable. Not as popular as we would have thought with theatre users, although TV like them. Advantages that the CMY offers - in addition to colour mixing - are a zoom going wider than the MAC500, an animation wheel and an excellent frost filter that lets you use the fixture as a wash. So good is the frost, that you can 'reveal' a gobo by starting with the frost fully in, and by taking it out slowly the gobo emerges. Its very, very quiet! Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 Hi carlos, I am using the giotto spot 400 at the moment, they are behaving nicely, I think they are about 2 years old (I rented them so I don't know ecactly)one is giving a little problem with a noise while zooming fast.and I have to phisically adjust them still (turning all the screws again and stuff) keep me posted with your experience. cheers, Sander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Threader Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 Dear Sander Are you sure you're using Giotto Spot 400 CMY? I don't think they've been on the market for 2 years. There is a Spot 400 (without the CMY colour mixing) that's been around for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeggie Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 hi I used the wash 400 version about 3 years ago, and I found them to be lovely lights, fairly noisy when moving at full speed, but nearly silent when moving slowly. one thing to take care over, is when using them with a fairly short throw, the leading edge of the colour frames are visible as distinct triangles in the beam. but then again, this was with a throw no more than eight meters. so with some throw that's reasonable, then it's likely to be fine. the beam variation is superb, and I was able to get a fairly hard edge on it if I took the time - not quite profile edged, but you cant expect it of a wash fixture. speed of movement while keeping a reasonably quiet noise level was perfectly usable, and the internal fan noise is fairly low level too. in short, I'm fond of them, but they need a decent throw to make the cmy aspect truly seamless hthandrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick512 Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 The SGM400 CMY is one of my favourite fixtures, it has some truly impressive qualities and considering it's price its a mystery to me why more LD's don't use them. As to reliability I have had 48 units out for just over a year. they have travelled worldwide, by air/sea and road. they have been Amptown SIP Flightcased for major freighting but have lived on sticks of truss on dollies for day to day transport. They have done shows in conditions ranging from - 30 degrees C to outdoor shows in 120 degree heat and dust storms, they have been hung outside on UK stadium stages with water running through them, and done in total around 200 Days/ shows. They have obviously needed some TLC but compared to other fixtures I have used they have been amazing. I think we have only truly broken 2. any other faults have been simple on site repairs. I would recommend them to anyone. They are no comparison to a Mac500, In My opinion they are far better than a Mac2000, (the Mac seems brighter in Open white but the SGM due to a much higher colour temp seem much brighter in saturated colours.) The SGM is quick at every function, and has outstanding optics. Try and spot difference between SGM400CMY and VL3000 Spot in this photo.. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/nickvislight/sgm400cmy/th_Rehersals1.jpg The Lav Breakup Gobo from air units are SGM's and from the Floor are VL3000'sAnd in the follwing photo the units in groups of 3 pointing up and out are SGM's while the units pointing down are VL3000's http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/nickvislight/sgm400cmy/th_Rehersals2.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick S Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 I can certainly add a thumbs up for the Giotto 400s - they're extremely quiet, and have a good output. They're also pretty reliable in harsh working conditions, and can take a tumble or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydlight Posted June 13, 2006 Author Share Posted June 13, 2006 Well Thank you all for your great help.Its been a decisive help cause now I can easily decide if Im going to sell my MAC 500 to replace them with the Giotto 400 CMY. Thanks again Carlos Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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