Hi, Have you owned the lantern for long or is it something you have recently purchased new / second hand? Kind regards, Dennis Hi Dennis, I bought it maybe 3-4 years ago from a popular auction site (without shutters as I didn't know what I was doing!) but only used it as a spot very occasionally. It's only recently I've been experimenting with gobos as photographic backdrops - just using breakups and because I typically use a wide aperture (say f/4) when shooting portraits the projection is out of focus in any case. It works well. Now I'm wanting a sharp projection (specifically a night city scape) and will therefore close down the camera lens to f/8 or f/16 - that's where my plan is falling apart. Bob Thanks Rob, This is what I feared :( I only have a throw distance of 5 maybe 6 metres available (in my studio anyway) and wanting a projection diameter of around 3 to 4 metres. I am asking too much? I had thought of a Selecon SPX profile (there are some going cheap on that auction site) based on a) I think the optics are better than the LDR and b) according to the seller the standard bulb is brighter than a Source 4 and apparently with a 800w bulb outperforms a Juliat 2k - at which point I could maybe use a donut. The LDR is not bright enough anyway without a donut. Alternatively I give up on the profile and try various flash gobo projectors that are now seen in photography - although I'm not convinced by what I've seen of such tools so far. ...or I go back to Photoshop, slide in a high res image of a gobo as a background. Easily done - although I'm trying to stay away from such trickery as much as possible and do (almost) everything in camera. Bob Thanks David, I'll try that - it makes sense as it'll do the same job as the iris in a camera lens. I suspect however that it really will be too dim - as the LDR on 650w (the max) is not enough anyway for my purposes. A more powerful profile with a donut might be an option.Bob