thanks,yes it kind of works as is, the issue is the way the qtx works, no fade between scenes etc, is annoying.. the way the Zero 88 works is ideal. prt of the problem is me... I haven't quite worked out the best way to utilise limited resources yet. The Showtecs are 3 per side of stage, one pair slightly forward as front lighting.currently as 6 seperate fixtures, which I think is unnecessary, maybe just have all as one fixture then I'll only need 3 channels on the Zero. Or... a desk that will handle both.