Thanks. Just managed to turn up a Furse (Fursine) sample swatch which includes their version, which looks very close to me (unlike the later attemps by various manufacturers.) Perfectly sensible point about the tungsten contribution to the perceived colour output. Intend to try an assortment of methods to see if I can come close. Some of the venue fixtures are RGBW, but the FOH all includes amber in the fixtre. so fingers crossed.Thanks for looking. Have just turned up a Furse (Fursine) swatch which includes their version... nearer than any of the later attempts to replicate the colour. Am going to try with that. If I'm unsuccessful I may well come back to you to borrow your swatch if I may. Thanks for looking.Cliff I have an ancient Cinemoid swatch which has 8 "Deep Salmon" on it if that's any use? No idea how old it is but has Rank Strand's address as Great West Road, Brentford, Middx, TW8 9HR but I would guess is mid to late 1970s.