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[Lightingfrog]

HAve been named lighting assistant for my college, at the moment we have been using sirius 24 desks which I am reasonably familiar with working but they cant handle many movers. college renting a pearl desk for a show, have you got any tips on what might work best with the pearl? the lighting design contains a lot of movers as well as about 20/30 pars. have you got any lighting tips that would work well with all of them, should I be using movers and pars evenly or tipping in favour of one or the other. Nb trackspots are been used so I cant try anything hugely fancy.

[Ben Langfeld]

This is probably something you should be asking the person who's assistant you are as he/she will know the show and the venue.

 

Edit: Just re-read your post. The Sirius 24 can't handle ANY movers let alone only a few. The sirius range is analogue.

[Bryson]

This is probably something you should be asking the person who's assistant you are as he/she will know the show and the venue.

 

Edit: Just re-read your post. The Sirius 24 can't handle ANY movers let alone only a few. The sirius range is analogue.

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Actually, only pretty old Sirius's are analogue only. Most of them have DMX512 output too. But I agree that you don't want to try and run movers off them. You can, but it's horrible.

 

My recommendation would be to try and get on the Pearl training run by Avo. It used to be free, but I don't think it is anymore.

 

Trackspots are nasty things, too, while we're at it. They blow lamps like nobodys business

[gareth]

With respect, Laura, you need to think about your question a bit more, and work out exactly what you're asking and what you want to know. The way you've phrased it at the moment is so vague as to be a bit pointless - it's a bit like posting on a PC users' forum with "Has anyone got any tips for using a printer with my laptop?".

 

What sort of tips? Connecting it all together? Addressing it? Programming? Operating? How to use it in the show? If it's any of the first four of those, then you'll probably get lots more information coming back to you if you're more specific about what you want to know. If it's the last one, then that's something that's between you, the LD and the rest of the creative team - lighting design isn't something you can do on the internet.

[Stu]

If you want training on the Pearl (which, for the record, isn't the best desk to be using in a theatrical setup if you ask me) then the best person to speak to would be Lindsey Markham (I think I've spelt that right). I would give you a contact number and e-mail address, but the Avolites site crashes my browser and it's also a good chance to have a google :P.

 

From memory it's about £30+VAT, and the course is held at their site at Park Royal in West London. Oh and you get a free t-shirt in that (as well as other bits 'n bobs), and lunch - which is good!

 

Stu

[PhilR]

If you want training on the Pearl (which, for the record, isn't the best desk to be using in a theatrical setup if you ask me) then the best person to speak to would be Lindsey Markham (I think I've spelt that right). I would give you a contact number and e-mail address, but the Avolites site crashes my browser and it's also a good chance to have a google :P.

 

From memory it's about £30+VAT, and the course is held at their site at Park Royal in West London. Oh and you get a free t-shirt in that (as well as other bits 'n bobs), and lunch - which is good!

 

Stu

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Lindsey's e-mail is lindsey@avolites.com and you can either get hold of her on the main Avo number: 0208 965 8522. I'd get in quick though, because we're not doing any training from mid-August to late September.

 

Stu - I'd imagine the part of the webstite that's crashing your browser is the Java - it might be worth disabling it in your browser's settings to check whether that helps or not.

[Stutwo]

Keep the Sirius for the Parcan rig and use the Pearl on the movers. Neither is ideal for easily controlling both the generics and the intelligents really. The Pearl can handle it all if you know what you're doing, but it's great for movers, and once it's setup you can be programming chases on the intelligents within minutes.

[V.A.]

This is probably something you should be asking the person who's assistant you are as he/she will know the show and the venue.

 

Edit: Just re-read your post. The Sirius 24 can't handle ANY movers let alone only a few. The sirius range is analogue.

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Actually, the 24 & 48 have some DMX functionality (I'm not entirely sure of what it is as I've never used it), and the 250 & 500 are fully geared up for DMX.

[Modge]

Have a good look at the avolights website (there's a link on the forum somewhere, save me getting it wrong, try the lighting FAQ). They have an offline perl which is pretty much a perl on your PC and a decent step by step guide to using it. Can't beat training of course, but is a touch more on the free side. Re a Sirius and movers for the 24's and 48's I've not seen one with out a DMX card but they may well exist. I've run DMX strobes (Atomics) off them before and it's really not too bad but I'd hate the idea of running anything more off them.

[Ben Langfeld]

We've had to use (up until now) a Sirius 24 at school that doesn't have any DMX capabilities to speak of. Hmm, must investigate that one.

[James]

This is probably something you should be asking the person who's assistant you are as he/she will know the show and the venue.

 

Edit: Just re-read your post. The Sirius 24 can't handle ANY movers let alone only a few. The sirius range is analogue.

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Actually, the 24 & 48 have some DMX functionality (I'm not entirely sure of what it is as I've never used it), and the 250 & 500 are fully geared up for DMX.

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No they don't

 

Blanket statements like that don't work

 

There are Sirius desks (24 & 48) without DMX, and ones with. It was an option. I don't know if it was an option that was available at the start of their life, or indeed if the analouge only option was available at the end of their life.

 

I do know not to assume that a sirius has any features without asking what software / hardware configuration it has first.

 

James

[sam.henderson]

I agree with those who have said go do the Pearl training. Lindsey is lovely and its a good day (the lunch is nice) and I think its cheaper than £30 if you are a student!

 

Sam

[Lightingfrog]

This is probably something you should be asking the person who's assistant you are as he/she will know the show and the venue.

 

Edit: Just re-read your post. The Sirius 24 can't handle ANY movers let alone only a few. The sirius range is analogue.

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Actually, only pretty old Sirius's are analogue only. Most of them have DMX512 output too. But I agree that you don't want to try and run movers off them. You can, but it's horrible.

 

My recommendation would be to try and get on the Pearl training run by Avo. It used to be free, but I don't think it is anymore.

 

Trackspots are nasty things, too, while we're at it. They blow lamps like nobodys business

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Thanks for the avo tip, ill look into it,

I agree with trackspots, not only did we manage to blow about 4 bulbs (6 lamps total) in the last show but during one number - one went crazy, carried out gobo and gel changes but didnt change its position... meh

[nickgold]

We have a sirius 24 in one of drama studios and it has DMX but its a horrible

[Lightingfrog]

With respect, Laura, you need to think about your question a bit more, and work out exactly what you're asking and what you want to know. The way you've phrased it at the moment is so vague as to be a bit pointless - it's a bit like posting on a PC users' forum with "Has anyone got any tips for using a printer with my laptop?".

 

What sort of tips? Connecting it all together? Addressing it? Programming? Operating? How to use it in the show? If it's any of the first four of those, then you'll probably get lots more information coming back to you if you're more specific about what you want to know. If it's the last one, then that's something that's between you, the LD and the rest of the creative team - lighting design isn't something you can do on the internet.

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HI, sorry if I phrased my question wrong. I was just after random tips on what to look for or watch out for in a simple rig situation. Just anything that might be able to help me in a show, to make sure it goes more smoothly or anything to watch out for- was what I was asking for. Thanks to everyone that replied