rinkydinkron Posted July 19, 2005 Posted July 19, 2005 Sorry for sounding like a dork but where exactly should NJD Quartets be directed on stage,facing the audience or facing the band??
johnhuson Posted July 19, 2005 Posted July 19, 2005 I think the answer to that is it depends on the effect your trying to achieve and what you are trying to light. There isn't a wrong or right way.
s-p Posted July 19, 2005 Posted July 19, 2005 Agree with John, it depends what you're doing and what else you're using. If you want to actually colour the performers then perhaps sidelighting, or possibly FOH. Each lamp is 500W I believe, so they could throw a fair distance, though obviously this would depend on what they have to cut through. Then again, flooding the stage from behind could look good.Personally I would crosslight from FOH, you could get some quite neat effects by colouring a performer in a different colour left and right. sp
rinkydinkron Posted July 19, 2005 Author Posted July 19, 2005 Thanks for the suggestions guys.This has been a subject close to my heart for a while as I often use 4 source 4's,2 to the right and 2 to the left of the band facing out and up so the crowd can see the lights which I think makes the stage look a bit more interesting.Surely if you face them towards the band it will just look like a lot of different coloured flashing light lighting up the performers?
Just Some Bloke Posted July 19, 2005 Posted July 19, 2005 Surely if you face them towards the band it will just look like a lot of different coloured flashing light lighting up the performers?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> You've missunderstood the point of the NJD quartet. The reason it has 4 lamps, each a different colour is so you can mix relative amounts of each colour to achieve one composite colour somewhere between them all. NJD call it a 'floodlight' so are probably expecting you to use it to light some form of backdrop, or to do colour washes. Effects lights pointing towards the audience would normally be spotlights or pars. JSB
rinkydinkron Posted July 20, 2005 Author Posted July 20, 2005 Surely if you face them towards the band it will just look like a lot of different coloured flashing light lighting up the performers?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> You've missunderstood the point of the NJD quartet. The reason it has 4 lamps, each a different colour is so you can mix relative amounts of each colour to achieve one composite colour somewhere between them all. NJD call it a 'floodlight' so are probably expecting you to use it to light some form of backdrop, or to do colour washes. Effects lights pointing towards the audience would normally be spotlights or pars. JSB<{POST_SNAPBACK}> I see JSB,thanks for the advice!Do you have any suggestions on what exactly should be done with them?I only have one T-bar lighting stand or 2 loudspeaker stands to utilise.I was thinking either on top of speaker facing band(in wich case I would'nt need any stands) or one on a seperate stand on the right and one on a light stand to the left facing the band which would obviously require another lighting stand.Is it possible to sit these lights on the floor left and right facing up to the band?
Just Some Bloke Posted July 20, 2005 Posted July 20, 2005 Do you have any suggestions on what exactly should be done with them?I only have one T-bar lighting stand or 2 loudspeaker stands to utilise.I was thinking either on top of speaker facing band(in wich case I would'nt need any stands) or one on a seperate stand on the right and one on a light stand to the left facing the band which would obviously require another lighting stand.Is it possible to sit these lights on the floor left and right facing up to the band?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Your last suggestion would probably be best. Putting lights on speaker stands is very dangerous because they WILL get knocked off at some point, and as they get very hot when used for a while they can burn people, the smashing glass can cut them and they will, of course, bruise. You could be in trouble if any of those happen to a punter. Yup, I'd go with putting them on the floor either side of the band and pointing them upwards then chosing different colours for each song (e.g. first song blue, second song pink, third song blue from the left, red from the right etc.) if you have anything to control them with. If you haven't, save up and look through the NJD catalogue for something that will. Of course, if the venue you go to has a problem with the local lighting you could use them to fill the gaps. If it's all backlight and no front light, put them on stands at the front and vice versa.
rinkydinkron Posted July 22, 2005 Author Posted July 22, 2005 JSB I was talking about placing them on speaker stands fitted with t-bars,surely that's not dangerous?For the time being I've decided to do as you suggested and place them on the floor in front of the band.Can you personally recommend a comtroller that would be compatible with 2 Quartets and possibly 4-8 pars?
Just Some Bloke Posted July 22, 2005 Posted July 22, 2005 If you're looking for something "affordable" (i.e. cheap) you could look at NJD's Stage 2 lighting board. It is a 12 channel 2-preset desk with 168 storable scenes and flash buttons for under £500 (though I have an old price list). I can't say I've ever used it as I'm usually looking at a lot more dimmer channels than you, but it looks to be good value for money and should do what you're after. Assuming the Quartet uses 4 channels of DMX (1 for each colour) you could run 2 independently from channels 1-8, then pair the pars on channels 9 - 12. NJD's website - look under Lighting Control - Stage 2JSB
rinkydinkron Posted July 22, 2005 Author Posted July 22, 2005 I believe the quartet is not DMX compatible.
Just Some Bloke Posted July 22, 2005 Posted July 22, 2005 I believe the quartet is not DMX compatible.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, but it will plug into 4 dimmer channels, as if it were 4 Par cans (but taking less power).
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