Trunker Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 what for live or recordings? Beta 58 for live, but a large diaphram condensor like an AKG414 for recordings.
alex_kyuss Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 Hi all, beta 58's just sound alittle warmer and you get bags of GBF although the audix om7 sound really good. all depending on the vocal in question.
daveh Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 Horses for courses. I wouldn't use my e865s for growler metal even if I could afford the casualty rate, they just wouldn't suit the 'style'. It's got to be sm58's for that application. I use e865's on more tame rock / ballad program and IMHO they are superb on female jazz vox. They beat the crap out of sm58's from a 'sound' point of view. Despite that, I still voted the sm58 - it's a known standard for me and, a key factor, they are bloody reliable.
6th Order Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 What a question! B58 from that list as you're more likely to get a cutting vocal from it, but I prefer the B57 and use it all the time in every style of music that I do.
cabba Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 can anyone recommend a decent mic for backing vocals,heard the beyer opus39 is very good for the money currently useing behringer 8500 and there aweful!thanx
david.elsbury Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 Can anyone recommend a decent mic for backing vocals?Sure, anything that both sounds good on your voice, and is within your price range. No, really- every voice is different and as such IMO there is no use recommending specific mics- go to somewhere where you can demo them, preferably on a system you know well and make a decision from that (or hire some before purchase). David
TallMike Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 I think the SM58 is the OLD 'industry standard'. Beta 58a is now more so. A much better mic, and more suited to modern sound (including the use of IEMs) as well as having a better shockmount and better sounding capusle.
paulears Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 Why is a Beta58 better suited to IEMs? Personally, I don't like them - I agree they are brighter and perhaps have a little more clarity, but I've found that they don't work for every voice, whereas the old 58 was 'ok' on everything. So the new one isn;t really a replacement, as much as another good Shure mic.
6th Order Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 I agree. The Beta 58 is not as versatile as the SM58. That said, I find the Beta 57 very versatile indeed.
TallMike Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 Why is a Beta58 better suited to IEMs? Hypercardioid pattern - doesn't pick up noisy ears as much. I regularly use and gig with both SM and Beta 58s, and find the Beta 58a head and shoulders above the SM - for both clarity and useability on stage. That's probably the reason why all major acts use Betas, not SMs....
charlyfarly Posted July 23, 2007 Posted July 23, 2007 I voted for the good old SM58. It does exactly what it says on the box and is as tough as old boots, especially for male vocal.Beta 58 or 87 for female, I'll try both.At the moment I'm using a UHF-R/KSM9 combination for a male vocal and it is atoundingly smooth, excellent background rejection and the vocals are as clear as a bell in the noisiest stage situation! Pricey but Shurely the best condensor vocal mic they have ever made! :)
Bobbsy Posted July 23, 2007 Posted July 23, 2007 There must be a pun about "Night of the Living Dead Thread" here somewhere but anyway.... Of the mics on the poll I'd probably choose the SM58, though for specific voices I might use any of them from time to time. HOWEVER.... For my "general vocal mic" I'd personally choose the Audix OM6. To my ear, it has a warmer, more natural sound than the SM58 (with its presence peak "feature"), has oodles of gain before feedback (often bringing soft voices out of mire much better than Shure/Sennheiser) and is a nice tough, pro mic. I also use the OM5 or OM7 from time to time if I feel the need to vary the polar pattern. Heartily recommended to anyone who hasn't tried them! Bob
TallMike Posted July 23, 2007 Posted July 23, 2007 At the moment I'm using a UHF-R/KSM9 combination for a male vocal and it is atoundingly smooth, excellent background rejection and the vocals are as clear as a bell in the noisiest stage situation! Pricey but Shurely the best condensor vocal mic they have ever made! :) They are very impressive. And you can change the pattern as well!
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