alanbain Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 'm looking to build a lightweight structure resembling the wreck of a boat for stage use as shown in the front and side sketches below. I'm looking at materials to use for the frames (the cross hatched pieces). Obviously in real life they would be solid wood. I'd like to keep weight down (it gets moved around) compared to say using thick plywood and wondered if there were a suitable composite material (for example 6mm ply sandwiched with a foam core and then another layer of 6mm ply) which might appear to have the thickness of solid timber without the weight. Any suggestions welcome? http://www.the-sot.org/iodg/boat_small.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandall Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 A bit of research on how boats are constructed might not come amiss :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanbain Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 A bit of research on how boats are constructed might not come amiss :) It's OK, I know how to build boats (and have done so) but a certain amount of experience tells me that construction for the stage often doesn't just mirror construction in real life (I certainly remember the huge roars of laughter when I made a dovetailed drawer for use in a set) and sometimes giving people the impression that they are seeing what they expect to see is more important than showing them what the object would actually look like. Usually the frames are either steam bent (for small boats) or made from series of sawn sections joined with plated scarf joints in order to keep the grain as straight as possible. But in general one doesn't pick boats up very often (at least not without a crane)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew C Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Two layers (or more) of this stuff laminated (glued) together once it is in the shape you want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanbain Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 Two layers (or more) of this stuff laminated (glued) together once it is in the shape you want? Nice idea -I'd forgotten that stuff; used it once before to make a throne and it worked really well. Three layers locked up solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivemaster Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Anything that'ssold as fireproofis a good start. Looking through google images shows many wrecked boats. Pick one you like and rip a lot more off it for lightness. https://www.google.com/url?sa=I&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjqzYu07ZfnAhW1TxUIHQH3Cv0QMwiRASgZMBk&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.freeimages.com%2Fpremium%2Fwreck-of-an-old-wooden-ship-1056655&psig=AOvVaw0ad4TwLVdOXkawHvMTZAUq&ust=1579804740626445&ictx=3&uact=3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunray Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Are you making the frame alone or are you covering it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekul1978 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 I suppose you could always use the lightweight ply/hardboard option to create the "shell" then add something like Peter Evans wood panels to it to give the effect of the ship boards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerry davies Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 This may be laughed out of court but one of the best "representative" boats we did was a Viking longboat we built out of lengths of bamboo split lengthways. It was 30 feet long with a 25 foot mast, had hardboard shields and could be easily carried by 2 or 3 people. We stole the design and adapted it from the Sun Voyager sculpture in Iceland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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