Simon Lewis Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 There may be some money in it.... Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ynot Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Erm, slightly confused (though I'm not a regular noise-boy so may have missed something)... I understood the PMSE band to be in the 800MHz range - ie 823 to 832MHz, which is what we have on our licence as PMSE users...So is there another PMSE band in 700MHz?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sameness Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 You are thinking of the free to use part of the spectrum - Ch70. As you probably know PMSE stands for Program Making and Special Events, who look after the whole spectrum. Current availability can be seen on a lovely diagram from Shure - Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamplighter Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 The Sure chart is well out of date. The segment 822-832 MHz has been part of the shared licence for quite a while.Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Lewis Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 Tony, The 800MHz band sell off was where we lost channels 61 to 69 (790 - 862 MHz) although we were "given" 823 to 832 back in 2014. Channel 38 was designated as the "new 69". The 700MHz sell of will see us losing channels 49 to 60 (694 - 790 MHz) and STT services displaced by this have to go to channel 31 - 37 (so we effectively lose that space too). The 700MHz sell off was going to be from 2022, but now they want it done more quickly... We will be left with 21-30 (470 - 550MHz) and 39 - 48 (614 - 694 MHz) as interleaved spectrum, 823-832 MHz and channel 38 as dedicated shared spectrum and (part of ) channel 70 as a free to use (but somewhat busy). Oh, there's 1.8GHz too :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 PMSE is for practical purposes split into two types - your 'normal' licence isn't the same as the one that's being re-allocated. These are bought as a series of one-offs. The broadcasters make frequent use of these, and they're allocated for shorter time periods for specific locations or smaller areas to provide OB type coverage. 700MHz users have a 'standard licence' - this is not the same as the UHF one man y of us have - If I log into my OFCOM account, I do not have the appropriate registration to book a 700MHz frequency. You have to apply to get this kind of licence - I guess the system works because it's a little like the PMR technically assigned comms licences, they are coordinated, to make best use fo the space. Broadcasters usually do not use ch 38 or the old 69/70 ones. Probably a sensible move because when they come to theatres, they never ask, but just turn on their kit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Lewis Posted August 24, 2018 Author Share Posted August 24, 2018 It's possible to get a co-ordinated licence for site specific long term use (~one year), but yes - the short term PMSE use is normally along the lines of 'we need 6 frequencies at this geographical location between these dates and our kit will tune to this range". The other key benefit is not only should there be no other users in your allocated slot, but that you are the only one authorised to use it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ynot Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 In short, then, those of us who moved to CH 38 in the last enforced move are safe (for now, I guess) as this new move won't affect that licensing...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Lewis Posted August 24, 2018 Author Share Posted August 24, 2018 In short, then, those of us who moved to CH 38 in the last enforced move are safe (for now, I guess) as this new move won't affect that licensing...? Yes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pstewart Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 In short, then, those of us who moved to CH 38 in the last enforced move are safe (for now, I guess) as this new move won't affect that licensing...? Yes.... But those of us who moved to Ch54 and surrounding area will have to do it all again. Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Lewis Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 But those of us who moved to Ch54 and surrounding area will have to do it all again. Sigh. It's a pain... but at least there is the prospect of payment to ease the move. Of course, PMSE is being squeezed into yet smaller bits of spectrum, and sharing stuff with DTT so life isn't necessarily going to get easier.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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