TomHoward Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 Does anyone have any recommendations please for seriously budget subwoofers - these are for school discos essentially, we have EV ZLX12 tops, and currently we pair them up with some HK subs off a L5 system, but need something dedicated to use with these. The matching ELX118 are £500 a piece, whereas things like the Thomann Box stuff can be as little as £210. Skytec have active 15s for as little as £85 a piece(!) but they surely must be shocking. Need to be able to pole mount the 12" tops over them, and they are more for stands and look than sound. I'm guessing used off eBay might be better for this one as it'll stretch the money a little further.
themadhippy Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 Do schools still teach wood work? if so build your own
TomHoward Posted December 3, 2015 Author Posted December 3, 2015 Lot of effort to make them active - need to fit amp modules and all that, once we've bought the drivers, fittings and finishes it seems hard to beat the cheap stuff on price
Mystic Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 Give a try to wharferdale titan A12, I have a pair and they sound good to my use (small to medium gigs) :) http://www.wharfedalepro.com/product-detail.php?pid=4
sam.spoons Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 Alto Truesonic TSub? Sorry, I haven't tried one but the associated tops are so good that I can't believe the subs wouldn't punch above their weight :)
revbobuk Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 The alto tssub 15 is really good - and a single unit is a great partner for a pair of 12" tops in a school disco.
Jivemaster Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 Look round your local disco shops see if they have anything used or PX in stock. Never sure that DIY is cheaper.
TomHoward Posted December 4, 2015 Author Posted December 4, 2015 How noisy are the fans in the alto subs? It's not a major issue for disco but I spotted a pair of do Opera subs for cheap but thought the fans seemed unusual. That said, we used power amps with fans in the room for years and never gave it a second thought.
sam.spoons Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 FWIW, the fans in the TS110A tops I have are pretty un-intrusive. Never notice them on a gig.
revbobuk Posted December 5, 2015 Posted December 5, 2015 How noisy are the fans in the alto subs? It's not a major issue for disco but I spotted a pair of do Opera subs for cheap but thought the fans seemed unusual. That said, we used power amps with fans in the room for years and never gave it a second thought. Can't hear them at all. No issue.
TomHoward Posted January 10, 2016 Author Posted January 10, 2016 I've got a pair of TS Sub15s now - the fans seem to be temperature controlled, which I hadn't assumed they'd be at the price point. Only weird thing is the castor mountings are on the bottom - I know they're only small subs but we'll still castor them - is that standard? These were a 'lightly' used pair (they must have been taken to a lot of gigs they weren't used on!) so it's possible someone's fitted those nuts afterwards but it doesn't look like it.
sam.spoons Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 It doesn't look as if the TSubs have castors as standard sod you're probably right. How do they sound?
revbobuk Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 That's correct - the castors are optional, and mount on the base, which isn't ideal.
TomHoward Posted January 10, 2016 Author Posted January 10, 2016 I haven't fired them up yet. Odd with the castors on the base - we'll be pole mounting a speaker over the top of them so I can't see that working. It looks like there'll be room to fit the castors onto the back instead.
TomHoward Posted January 15, 2016 Author Posted January 15, 2016 Managed to fit some castors on the back, although it's very tight as the active plate is quite wide, so it forces the castor so close to the vertical edge that the castor hole pretty much touches the side wall - so you won't get a T-nut on - but can get a normal nut on (just) if you gouge into the side a bit. Subs have good output (once I'd realised the SIGNAL LIMIT led turns green with signal and turns red with limit - rather than just illuminating for limit - I though they were running into limit really low but that's just signal indication.)The only thing is they need a reasonable input signal to drive them - a lot of our setups are small active systems played directly from laptops and phones - which doesn't have quite enough output to drive them properly - at maximum input sensitivity you still seem to run out of input signal before you've managed to really push them. I'll have a look into this but one cheeky suggestion I found online so far is just to link from the link output from the first channel back into the 2nd input - should buy 3db at least. Oh - I also swapped the pole mounts for M20 screw style - but that's just a personal preference. I never seem to get on with straight socket type as there are a few variations in size so they seem to get stuck. Was a straight swap for the Pulse branded ones from CPC for less than about £3 each.
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