Power Comsumption - ELX112P

[JamesR]

Hi,

 

Quick question... I am due to setup sound at a venue that has only 5amp sockets!

 

Can I run my ELX112P safely? I have worked out from specs that they run around 1amp which is about 100 watts

Give or take?

 

Would this be okay?

 

One speaker per 5 amp socket?

 

Cheers

James

[timsabre]

It rather depends what is on the other end of the 5A sockets. On the face of it, yes it should be fine.

 

It is extremely unusual to find power on 5A sockets - are you sure they are really power sockets and not something else (old dimmer outlets for example)

[JamesR]

It rather depends what is on the other end of the 5A sockets. On the face of it, yes it should be fine.

 

It is extremely unusual to find power on 5A sockets - are you sure they are really power sockets and not something else (old dimmer outlets for example)

 

I was in disbelief too... I have checked and for some reason all the sockets are 5A... Why I have no idea... It's a conference venue.

 

The sockets before had a single ParCan 56 (LED) shooting up the wall... All the sockets have these Barr 3 which have fairy lights which go up some

Plants.

[timsabre]

Um, if part of the lighting installation it might be worth checking where these sockets are actually powered from.

 

You could find they can be switched off by a randomly placed light switch (or worse, a building management computer). They may also have a very low rated MCB for the entire room. You should still be OK but I'd be worrying about getting turned off unexpectedly.

[MarkPAman]

Surely a conference venue has people wanting "normal" 13A sockets all the time. Where do delegates plug in their phone & laptop chargers?

[JamesR]

Surely a conference venue has people wanting "normal" 13A sockets all the time. Where do delegates plug in their phone & laptop chargers?

 

 

I ask all these questions... Apparently they do plug in laptops and phones, iPad you name it and its never tripped the power. Its 5 Amp @ 240V - which is 1200 watts?

 

It's 5 amps to stop people plugging in hair dryers and kettles, microwaves... etc apparently... Don't ask. But its sounds from there electrician it will all be okay.

 

Aslong as it all works... I am happy.

 

Cheers

James

[MarkPAman]

Still not understanding it though!

 

To allow the use of laptop & phone chargers there must be 5A - 13A converters - which would then allow the kettle/microwave/hair dryer thing again..... : :unsure:

[jmdh]

Still not understanding it though!

 

To allow the use of laptop & phone chargers there must be 5A - 13A converters - which would then allow the kettle/microwave/hair dryer thing again..... : :unsure:

 

Is the issue that we are actually talking about 13A UK sockets fused at 5A (and labelled as such) rather than 5A round-pin lighting style sockets?

[JamesR]

Still not understanding it though!

 

To allow the use of laptop & phone chargers there must be 5A - 13A converters - which would then allow the kettle/microwave/hair dryer thing again..... : :unsure:

 

Is the issue that we are actually talking about 13A UK sockets fused at 5A (and labelled as such) rather than 5A round-pin lighting style sockets?

 

Yes, really sorry... I forgot to explain that... It's 13A socket fused at 5 amp? I am guessing it will run my ELX112P?

[timsabre]

Is the issue that we are actually talking about 13A UK sockets fused at 5A (and labelled as such) rather than 5A round-pin lighting style sockets?

 

Yes, really sorry... I forgot to explain that... It's 13A socket fused at 5 amp? I am guessing it will run my ELX112P?

 

Ah... that does make a difference then. This just goes to show the importance of using the correct terminology as a "5 amp socket" is not the same as a "13A socket fused at 5 amps".

 

The reason I assumed you meant 5 amp round pin sockets is because there is a venue very close to me which has 5 amp twin sockets on the walls as part of an old dimmer installation. Frequently people come up asking for converters to plug things in, but there's nothing on the other end.

[JamesR]

Is the issue that we are actually talking about 13A UK sockets fused at 5A (and labelled as such) rather than 5A round-pin lighting style sockets?

 

Yes, really sorry... I forgot to explain that... It's 13A socket fused at 5 amp? I am guessing it will run my ELX112P?

 

Ah... that does make a difference then. This just goes to show the importance of using the correct terminology as a "5 amp socket" is not the same as a "13A socket fused at 5 amps".

 

The reason I assumed you meant 5 amp round pin sockets is because there is a venue very close to me which has 5 amp twin sockets on the walls as part of an old dimmer installation. Frequently people come up asking for converters to plug things in, but there's nothing on the other end.

 

I do apologise! I should of made it a lot clear.

 

Do we think the 13A socket fused at 5a would run my gear without tripping?

 

Cheers

James

[timsabre]

Do we think the 13A socket fused at 5a would run my gear without tripping?

 

It should do, assuming not much else is running off the circuit.

[Jivemaster]

If you are using several items, I'd power them up sequentially, simply so that switch on surges don't become a problem. Otherwise I'd be happy with a 5A feed.

[SamuelWilliams]

Hi James

 

I see your in derbyshire, if you get stuck again just drop me a text sometime, if I can im happy to help.

 

The loudspeakers product manual states..

Under high signal conditions, the Live X loudspeaker amplifier can draw 1.0 amps of current at 120V, or 0.6 amps at 230V. Be cautious of what else is plugged into the same electrical service line to avoid electrical problems and poor performance.

 

I suspect this is the 1/8th power consumption value, and will not allow for transients however is well below the limit of 5amp per outlet you are working within.

 

Cheers Sam.

[Jivemaster]

One simple answer is that after any switch on surge, the speakers will draw power in proportion to the loudness you want and the type of music you play through them. Live sound uncompressed will approximate to 1/8 of the rated power, heavily compressed music such as some modern dance music may see you drawing full rated power from the wall.