Inresting to see...

[sam.henderson]

Hi all,

 

Have linked to this article (http://www.lsionline.co.uk/news/story.asp?ID=11DXMQ) in the sound forum as well but thought it would be interesting for you to know that the LD for Acorn Antiques specified a FPS Hog II ro program/ run the the show on even though its a more sort of 'theatre' show with a cue stack. Goes to show despite what some people think they really are quite versatile beasts, at home in a theatre as well as with rock and roll!

 

Sam ;)

[Bryson]

Its a common misconception, that Hogs are "Moving Lights only". They have a command-line interface, cue stacks and pretty much all the tools you need to manipulate conventionals AND all the fancy moving Carlos Fandango bits too.

 

A Hog 2 will look after theatre cue-stacks as well as an ETC or a Strand, no problem... It just doesn't have the subs that you might want, and you may prefer a wheel for levels rather than a dial.

[mac500]

Several west end shows use the hog as there desk, I'm pretty sure that We Will Rock You's on a Hog. Mamma Mia is on a GrandMA, Women In White and I think Les Miserables are on Strand 500 series.

 

So its whatever desk the LD and programmers feel most comfortable with.

[sam.henderson]

Marry Poppins is also using Strand 5x0 series.

 

Sam

[benweblight]

I'm pretty sure that We Will Rock You's on a Hog

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we will rock you is a rock musical, so is not really a good example imho

[Bryson]

Why isn't it a good example? Are you under the impression that the LX for WWRY is "busked" every night? Becasue I'm pretty sure its a strict cuesheet, called by a DSM just like all the rest of them.

 

And although there are a lot of movers, there's also a lot of conventionals too...I'm sure Piers could tell us exactly how many....

[gareth]

I'm pretty sure that We Will Rock You's on a Hog

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we will rock you is a rock musical, so is not really a good example imho

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So what? WWRY might be a rock musical, but it's still a musical - the show runs the same way every night, tightly structured, flowing linearly from beginning to end, and called by a DSM. So it's no different to any other piece of theatre in that respect.

 

And Bryson's right, many people who've never had the pleasure of programming/operating a Hog2 simply don't realise that it's very much a theatre-friendly desk. In fact, there are many consoles which are supposedly 'theatre' desks around which the Hog2 would run rings, even on a show with no moving light component in the rig. As Bryson says, as long as you can live with the lack of submasters and the fact that your intensity control is on a rotary rather than a 'traditional' wheel (could be worse, it could be on a trackpad!), then the Hog2 is a great desk for theatre.

[stormster]

I utilise a hog on all my theatre shows whenever possible and run it in a theatre style cuelist or stack, worked great for the last 5 years long may they keep flying.

[Bryson]

I'm pretty sure that We Will Rock You's on a Hog

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we will rock you is a rock musical, so is not really a good example imho

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So what? WWRY might be a rock musical, but it's still a musical - the show runs the same way every night, tightly structured, flowing linearly from beginning to end, and called by a DSM. So it's no different to any other piece of theatre in that respect.

 

And Bryson's right, many people who've never had the pleasure of programming/operating a Hog2 simply don't realise that it's very much a theatre-friendly desk. In fact, there are many consoles which are supposedly 'theatre' desks around which the Hog2 would run rings, even on a show with no moving light component in the rig. As Bryson says, as long as you can live with the lack of submasters and the fact that your intensity control is on a rotary rather than a 'traditional' wheel (could be worse, it could be on a trackpad!), then the Hog2 is a great desk for theatre.

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To be fair to those other desks, Hog 2s were disturbingly expensive when you could buy them...so it's not really surprising they were good bits of kit...

[Neil Frazer]

Several west end shows use the hog as there desk, I'm pretty sure that We Will Rock You's on a Hog. Mamma Mia is on a GrandMA, Women In White and I think Les Miserables are on Strand 500 series.

 

So its whatever desk the LD and programmers feel most comfortable with.

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FYI Mamma Mia is on a Virtuoso DX2

[sam.henderson]

And for those who love Hog II and are not so keen on there hOG iii equivalants FPS's new product HogiPC can be run using Hog II software or Hog III software!!

 

Sam

[DSA]

The Starlight Express tour is running off a Hog 2 / Hog PC FYI. Another musical with many movers, but plenty of conventionals (esp. Pars and S4s) thrown in for good measure.

 

David

[sam.henderson]

..and lit quite nicely as well!!

 

Sam

[Piers Shepperd]

Thanks to the fabulous Gerry Amies - Production Electrician for London;

 

We Will Rock You in the Dominion does indeed run on a Hog II.

 

Lighting Kit List:

 

61 off Source 4 Profiles (assorted beam angles)

44 off Source 4 Pars 575w (assorted beam angles)

65 off Par 64 Parcans (assorted beam angles)

96 off Par 36 DWE Parcans

20 off Par 36 4-lites

24 off Studio Colour

17 off Mac 600

41 off Mac 2000

24 off Police Beacon

104 off Assorted Scollers

34 off MR16 Birdies

10 off Working lights

6 off UV Lights

32 off Atomic Strobe

211 off Star Stobes

2 off Space Flowers

2 off Infra Red lamp

4 off JEM ZR33 smoke machine

3 off JEM Technofog smoke machine

2 off LeMaitre Hazer

2 off 2K Lycian Xenon Followspots

4 off Lycian 1200 medium throw Followspots

 

Cheers,

 

Piers

[Bryson]

Thanks Piers, I knew you'd come up with the goods. Sorry to keep asking questions, but does the Hog sport an playback wing, or is it just the single unit?

 

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