RayL Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 A feature of all video editing software is the ability to scrub the timeline i.e. move the cursor along using the mouse to 'play' the time line at a speed determined by mouse movement. None of the audio editing packages that I've tried have this feature. They all allow one to select a section and play it but that has its limitations when, for example, exploring the rising edge of a waveform to decide on a cut point. Because I find scrubbing such a natural thing to do, I mostly use video editing software when I want to edit audio. I can't claim to have tried all audio software, but is there something that I have missed? Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timtheenchanteruk Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 not sure what you want to achieve by it? on video, I use scrubbing to find a specific video frame, in audio you can usually see the point you want in the wave form, I've never felt I needed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmdh Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 A feature of all video editing software is the ability to scrub the timeline i.e. move the cursor along using the mouse to 'play' the time line at a speed determined by mouse movement. None of the audio editing packages that I've tried have this feature. They all allow one to select a section and play it but that has its limitations when, for example, exploring the rising edge of a waveform to decide on a cut point. Because I find scrubbing such a natural thing to do, I mostly use video editing software when I want to edit audio. I can't claim to have tried all audio software, but is there something that I have missed? Ray Ardour has a jog/shuttle wheel does almost what you want (although the mouse position determines the speed of playback rather than the actual playback position). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timtheenchanteruk Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 just quick googles it, and yes audio software DOES scrub, Cubase & soundscape to name just 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 The main Logic page doesn't allow it, but if you go into the Sample Editor there is a button there (can't remember which off the top of my head) that you can do it from. Never found it useful, but it''s there http://www.blue-room.org.uk/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepSpacePenguin Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Pretty sure adobe audition can do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_P Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Reaper can do this too, if you want cheep and cheerful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoLiEn Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I can confirm audition does this as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayL Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 Thanks to you all. My original route into audio editing software was through the Cakewalk / Sonar path (which didn't scrub). I found myself preferring to use the lovely Adobe Premiere 6.5 which, with DVD Storm hardware, gives smooooth scrubbing. This thread was triggered by the purchase of a Zoom H1 'the microphone that records' which comes with Wavelab LE7 on the supplied microSD card. That also doesn't scrub so I was interested to know what did these days. A quick run of the evaluation version of Reaper (thanks, Rob_P) confirms that it is certainly able to scrub, though it has the same inertia problems as Sony Vegas. I'll experiment further. Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldradiohand Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Sadie used to do quite good scrub editing 'cos the BBC insisted it had to do it. Most people found waveform editing easier - although using scrub edit was useful to convert tape editors from scrub to waveform editing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbsy Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I guess it's because I started with reel to reel tape decks (both video tape and audio) but I find the Adobe Audition scrub capability very useful even with all the visual displays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerr Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I guess it's because I started with reel to reel tape decks (both video tape and audio) but I find the Adobe Audition scrub capability very useful even with all the visual displays. I agree. All those years of rocking tape reels (don't try it with an ATR-100) make scrubbing to find edit points the easy way for me. The grandaddy of all DAWs, SoundTools, the precursor of ProTools was the last editor I've used that had good scrub editing, and that was many years ago. I have missed it ever since, although I am quite used to waveform editing. Mac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solstace Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Can't say I've noticed a latency issue with scrubbing in Reaper, though I've never worked reel-to-reel and I am usually editing/recording on a low-latency audio link to a Firewire Presonus interface. Scrubbing can be laggy when running on internal audio hardware, especially when running Reaper in Windows. I'd guess the latency on-board sound (especially on Windows machines) might be rather different depending on how well the drivers and hardware are working together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I'd have to admit to using my eyes more than my ears nowadays. However - chinagraph pencils still bring a smile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbsy Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Chinagraph pencils and two inch quad video tape...now, those were the days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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