chrisg Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Hi- I am sure someone out there can help as this is probably a simple question if you know how. I am comfortable with editing the fixture.lib file off line, my question is how do I get it back into the desk. Do I have to reload all the software with an edited copy of fixture.lib on the disc or is there an easier way. The strand manual refers to the "Notes Editor" where does this live and how is it accessed, can I edit the files directly in the console. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRW Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Hi- I am sure someone out there can help as this is probably a simple question if you know how. I am comfortable with editing the fixture.lib file off line, my question is how do I get it back into the desk. Do I have to reload all the software with an edited copy of fixture.lib on the disc or is there an easier way. The strand manual refers to the "Notes Editor" where does this live and how is it accessed, can I edit the files directly in the console. Chris <start 95% certainty> OK, first of all, fixture libraries 'travel' within show files. The fixture.lib file is (I think) updated when you load a show file in to be how it was when you last saved that show file. </95% certainty!> <start 100% fact>To edit the fixture library file, you can either copy it off the desk, which it sounds like is what you're doing, or edit it on the desk, through GeniusPro notes display- (hit 'More', 'SK2' (Notes Display), 'SK6' (Load File), 'SK4' (Fixt Lib) ) If you edit the fixture library through Notes Display, changes will take effect once you have hit 'SK5' (Save File), and you an go into Patch and patch your fixture. If you edit it away from the console, you'll have to copy the fixture.lib file from your floppy disk into the '220os' folder on the C: drive. It might be worth backing up the current version. You'll probably be in DOS at this point, so once you start up Genius Pro the new fixture library will take effect. Either way, be aware that if you have say, a Mac 500 (fixture 49) patched already, then you edit fixture 49 to be a Clay Paky Sharpie, the already patched fixture will take on the guise of a Sharpie. Hope this clears it up a bit, I'm sure someone will point it out if my first statement isn't quite correct. Ian Edited to add: It's also useful to note that you can just load in fixtures from a show file by going into Archive, and checking only the 'Fixtures' line. If you only want fixture 49, the adjust the First/Last columns accordingly. You then hit 'SK3' (Browse Files) and select the show you want to load fixtures from, and there you have the hypothetical Clay Paky Sharpie without disrupting the rest of the current show. (Although again, be aware, when you save, this new version of fixture 49 will be saved with it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisg Posted May 17, 2012 Author Share Posted May 17, 2012 Ian Thank you so much. As I said in my original post, it is a simple question for someone who knows what they are doing and you clearly do. It worked like a dream and saved me loads of time. Thanks again ChrisHi- I am sure someone out there can help as this is probably a simple question if you know how. I am comfortable with editing the fixture.lib file off line, my question is how do I get it back into the desk. Do I have to reload all the software with an edited copy of fixture.lib on the disc or is there an easier way. The strand manual refers to the "Notes Editor" where does this live and how is it accessed, can I edit the files directly in the console. Chris <start 95% certainty> OK, first of all, fixture libraries 'travel' within show files. The fixture.lib file is (I think) updated when you load a show file in to be how it was when you last saved that show file. </95% certainty!> <start 100% fact>To edit the fixture library file, you can either copy it off the desk, which it sounds like is what you're doing, or edit it on the desk, through GeniusPro notes display- (hit 'More', 'SK2' (Notes Display), 'SK6' (Load File), 'SK4' (Fixt Lib) ) If you edit the fixture library through Notes Display, changes will take effect once you have hit 'SK5' (Save File), and you an go into Patch and patch your fixture. If you edit it away from the console, you'll have to copy the fixture.lib file from your floppy disk into the '220os' folder on the C: drive. It might be worth backing up the current version. You'll probably be in DOS at this point, so once you start up Genius Pro the new fixture library will take effect. Either way, be aware that if you have say, a Mac 500 (fixture 49) patched already, then you edit fixture 49 to be a Clay Paky Sharpie, the already patched fixture will take on the guise of a Sharpie. Hope this clears it up a bit, I'm sure someone will point it out if my first statement isn't quite correct. Ian Edited to add: It's also useful to note that you can just load in fixtures from a show file by going into Archive, and checking only the 'Fixtures' line. If you only want fixture 49, the adjust the First/Last columns accordingly. You then hit 'SK3' (Browse Files) and select the show you want to load fixtures from, and there you have the hypothetical Clay Paky Sharpie without disrupting the rest of the current show. (Although again, be aware, when you save, this new version of fixture 49 will be saved with it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazeja Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 If you edit the fixture library through Notes Display, changes will take effect once you have hit 'SK5' (Save File), and you an go into Patch and patch your fixture. Now that's something I wasn't aware of. Quite a few people I've spoken to have been caught out on the 500 by not realising that you need a console/software restart before any changes they've made in the libraries come into effect. This as I understand it is because the libraries are read during the console software powerup routine.I didn't realise the 300 was different. K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRW Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Now that's something I wasn't aware of. Quite a few people I've spoken to have been caught out on the 500 by not realising that you need a console/software restart before any changes they've made in the libraries come into effect. This as I understand it is because the libraries are read during the console software powerup routine.I didn't realise the 300 was different. K To be honest, I thought the same, I just happen to have a 300 set up on my desk, and powered it up to make sure the keys I was saying where correct, and discovered it then! A concurrent post has been merged Now that's something I wasn't aware of. Quite a few people I've spoken to have been caught out on the 500 by not realising that you need a console/software restart before any changes they've made in the libraries come into effect. This as I understand it is because the libraries are read during the console software powerup routine.I didn't realise the 300 was different. K To be honest, I thought the same, I just happen to have a 300 set up on my desk, and powered it up to make sure the keys I was saying where correct, and discovered it then! OK, so after writing the above, I started doubting myself, so just fired up the console to try again. Sure enough, after editing the fixture lib file 'live', then going back into patch, I was able to patch an 'IRW Scroll Arm' (fixture 1) straight away. Prior to editing the file, I'd patched two PALS Pirouette's (fixture 1, which I replaced with my entry), and interestingly, after editing the fixture lib file, the title of the fixture as displayed on the patch sheet had changed, but the channel allocation hadn't. Maybe it's something to do with the 300 having less RAM than the 500 series? I'm running 2.8.5 for reference! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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