S&L Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 I was reading an earlier thread about two outputs from one Behrigher shark and it made me stop and think. I have a shark sat in the cupboard, in it's original role, I couldn't get on with it so there it has sat. I was wondering what uses people had found for it who use it regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.elsbury Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 They can be a bit fiddly to setup.... I've used it as a show relay preamp/comp (as has probably half the forum membership, haha) and also set up a bunch of them as delays for a distributed speaker setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigclive Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Not being a sound guy I'd not come across the Shark before. What a neat little tool-box toy for getting out of sticky audio situations. Having read the reviews, the biggest gripe was that so much functionality was crammed into such a small space that you had to read the manual. I'm sure if it was thoroughly played with initially then you'd get used to its features quickly. I just like the fact that one unit can do so many things, but ultimately you can use it for something dumb and simple too like adding phantom power to a mic line or for swapping between mic and line levels. One Amazon review (of the DSP110 version) mentioned the quirk of having the main level control on the back with the front clipping controls being just for fine level adjustment. They also mentioned that that's exactly where it SHOULD be so that idle fingers don't mess with it. :** laughs out loud **: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomHoward Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Likewise, there's one on our show relay system as the preamp & compression. It's a good unit for the price point, the only drawback (perhaps) is there's no manual control of compression - just a compression 'level' that goes between 0 and 100 - but for non-musical use that's good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Lewis Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Not being a sound guy I'd not come across the Shark before. What a neat little tool-box toy for getting out of sticky audio situations. The concept is good - a multipurpose audio tool which can solve a number of problems. I did find that the latency was around 10ms (as measured by Smaart) and that it was entirely possible for the feedback destroyer to remove not only any whiff of feedback, but also any sign of audio signal too. Although I've used one as a delay in a particular install, I do not trust it to be used as a feedback reducer in a "non - engineered" install. Sharks are quite useful tools, but as usual they need deploying carefully... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benweblight Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 We have a bunch of these racked up in the TV studio at uni doing various audio delays in the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S&L Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 reading simon's comment was interesting - I got the shark for a similar reason, to take feedback out of a vocal chain but it was complex to run, the results were unsatisfactory and with compressed time set ups for live work, it never really made it past technical rehearsals. but on paper it's a versatile unit and rather than leave it in the box I was wondering if others had found good uses for it. not being a theatre guy (live pop and rock bands are my thing) I wondered if someone could explain 'a show relay system' ?the shark is one of those pieces of gear that seems too useful to throw out or sell on so I keep laying around but that's all it does - lay around! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew C Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Show relay = getting sound from the stage to dressing rooms, and other places where it might be needed. Quality is seldom important, provided everyone can hear what is going on. Normally on 100v distribution, seldom is there a real mixer in the chain. As some amps don't provide phantom, thus things like the Shark are useful, particularly with the other features available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbuckley Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Yeah, with show relay, low cut is handy for removing rumbles and stuff that aren't important to voice intelligibility, and the compression is a godsend so the level is something like consistent, given that the relay is delivered to a 100V system with naff speakers into a non-acute listening environment. I follow mine with a Rane CP62 (picked up for a song!) to provide priority mixing so that the stage manager's desk mic wins, then relay, then a MP3 player for BGM. The shark is very handy little box. The feedback "eliminator" does work as advertised, but like all feedback "eliminators", it is just a tool to be used in the hands of a competent person. As Simon notes, you can push them hard enough and they will eliminate pretty much all the audio in the goal of feedback reduction. But the clicker that provokes the system into feedback is a nice feature, rather than just raising the gain till it howls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Some Bloke Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 We use ours for the Sennheiser hard-of-hearing system: mic into Shark, Shark provides phantom power and compression, line out of Shark into Sennheiser controller and all done. Everythng up in the roof void with the power switched from the control room. Set it up once and leave it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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