Jake R Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Hi, I'm looking for some stageboxes; cheaper than these,http://www.canford.co.uk/Connection-panels-&-stageboxes/Floor-&-wall-boxes-and-plates/CANFORD-WALLBOXES-Surface-mounting-modular Or just the boxes I can drill them my self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyMitchell Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 may be of use ? http://www.terralec.co.uk/hardware/modular_box/166_0c.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake R Posted April 28, 2012 Author Share Posted April 28, 2012 Hi, Thats just right, better than I though. How possible do you think it would be to add MCB's to this, if wanting to make a 16A Cee Mini distro?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyMitchell Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Hi, Thats just right, better than I though. How possible do you think it would be to add MCB's to this, if wanting to make a 16A Cee Mini distro?? to fit an MCB you'd have to cut a blanking plate. what's the configuration of the end product you have in mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake R Posted April 28, 2012 Author Share Posted April 28, 2012 Hi, Well seeing they do 16A plates I was thinking of 4x 16A Cee's with a 32A trip or 4x 16A trips -- 32A Input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyMitchell Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Hi, Well seeing they do 16A plates I was thinking of 4x 16A Cee's with a 32A trip or 4x 16A trips -- 32A Input. any reason not to buy one of these instead?http://www.rubberbox.co.uk/on-the-shelf/small-boxes/RUB1409C.php or if you are incorporating it into a rack with other kit, how about something along the lines of http://www.rubberbox.co.uk/assets/images/bespoke-distros/images/image8.jpg @Mods - should this be moved from Sound to Leccy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake R Posted April 28, 2012 Author Share Posted April 28, 2012 Hi, Ok will have a look at it. Always thought they were quite costly. It was originality intended for sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyMitchell Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Ok will have a look at it. Always thought they were quite costly. possibly not as costly as you'd think - give them a call, they're very helpful. by the time you've put that modular 2u kit together, cased it up, and paid for it to be tested, you'll probably have spent more money than buying the right tool for the job from the market leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.elsbury Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 If this is your first time doing drilling of this sort, I'd suggest you just buy the pre made boxes. It's a pain in the rear to get them straight, tidy, and square with each other - much better to just buy the boxes IMO. If you're building a distro you should make sure it's checked and signed off by an electrican before you use it. If you're building a box with audio and mains in the same compartment, be extra careful and make sure that the two sides can't touch one another. (Not quite sure what you're actually doing so thought I'd post to cover all bases...) David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Lewis Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Well seeing they do 16A plates I was thinking of 4x 16A Cee's with a 32A trip or 4x 16A trips -- 32A Input. The problem of mounting MCBs is you need to cut, punch or mill the correct square hole and typically mount the MCB on DIN rail (either on standoffs to the front panel, or to a rear plate). It's not impossible, but can be hard to do neatly as others have mentioned. It is possible to utilise electrical distribution / MCB housings in flighcases or rack plates to make the job easier - or just get the EMO, Olson, Kelsey or Rubber Box units where it is all done for you in a purpose made housing! Incidently - 4x 16A Cee's with a 32A trip might not be suitable protection... ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake R Posted April 28, 2012 Author Share Posted April 28, 2012 Hi, possibly not as costly as you'd think - give them a call, they're very helpful.<br style="color: rgb(28, 40, 55); font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(250, 251, 252); ">by the time you've put that modular 2u kit together, cased it up, and paid for it to be tested, you'll probably have spent more money than buying the right tool for the job from the market leader. Fair point, it would be just as easy & probably more robust. (Not quite sure what you're actually doing so thought I'd post to cover all bases...) I wanted to make a 8Ch Stage box but then saw the 16A plates. The problem of mounting MCBs is you need to cut, punch or mill the correct square hole and typically mount the MCB on DIN rail (either on standoffs to the front panel, or to a rear plate). It's not impossible, but can be hard to do neatly as others have mentioned. It is possible to utilise electrical distribution / MCB housings in flighcases or rack plates to make the job easier - or just get the EMO, Olson, Kelsey or Rubber Box units where it is all done for you in a purpose made housing!<br style="color: rgb(28, 40, 55); font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(250, 251, 252); ">Incidently - 4x 16A Cee's with a 32A trip might not be suitable protection... ! It does sound hard but with a dremel can't be too bad. Will have a look at those other brands. It can but only going to load about 20A to the max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwright2104 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 It can but only going to load about 20A to the max. problem is that 20a may be all used on one 16a outlet. 4 x 16a breakers is needed, with a 32a rcd ideally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyMitchell Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 It can but only going to load about 20A to the max. The 16a ceeform outlets must be protected at 16a, ideally a 16a MCB on each, as is the case on the first Rubber Box link I posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.elsbury Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 ...and this is the issue with building your own, it's potentially dangerous if you aren't 100% sure what you're doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake R Posted April 28, 2012 Author Share Posted April 28, 2012 HI, problem is that 20a may be all used on one 16a outlet. 4 x 16a breakers is needed, with a 32a rcd ideally. That would have been better. The reason for a single 32A is that people have told me I over engineer most things I do. The 16a ceeform outlets must be protected at 16a, ideally a 16a MCB on each, as is the case on the first Rubber Box link I posted I will ring them on Monday and see what they have to offer. It will make life an awful lot more easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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