kong Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Hi all, I'm looking at installing a screen to fill the pros arch in a venue, pros arch is 950 x 418 cm. It needs to be put on a motorised roller as its a mullti-functional venue. Anyone have any sugguestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason5d Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 we can supply custom screens of any size www.5dg.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHYoung Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 WE can and have supplied screens in a similar situation, however, you are looking at a 10m package, This is A going to be expensive, B interesting to get into the venue. Why do you want a screen thats that size, uim assuming that its the size of the apeture, however its not actually a very usefull size as your widest generally available projector will be in a 16/9 aspect ratio, and im assuming that your stage continues beyond the rear of the proc , meaning that the front row cant see the floor, so the screen has to be slightly off the floor, lets say for sake of argument 500mm, but every venue is different. Im making assumptions here, but for the sake of neatness id fir a 16/9 screen that stops 500 off the floor and for sake of neatness has a similar amount of black border at the top, therefor that makes your image height approx 3200,and at 16/9 the width 5688 or less than 6m. Trust me when I say this will cost a fraction of a 9.5m one and be as usable as there is no point having screen you cant project onto.... you will need blacks behind, but thats straightforward if you dont allready. We often get asked to fit screens in stange ratios as the client thinks that filling the space is the best thing to do, but what you need is to have images in the correct aspect ratio without any cropping, Happy to advise ? / sell etc if you wish to get intouch.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepytom Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Does anyone ever actually offer advice on here any more? It seems that every question gets the same response from certain members (which basically is "yeah I know how to do it, but I'm not going to tell you, rather pitch for the job, even if I'm just going to resell you the services of someone else") Anyway - I would speak to Harkness Hall - they are a UK based manufacturer of screens who can supply custom width screens of any size and shape - they supplied a rather large arch screen for a project I worked on at Manchester Gmex which they have a nice picture of http://www.harkness-screens.com/news/worlds-largest-screen.html As they offer a complete in house service of design, manufacture and installation they will most likely be cheaper than an AV company who will be using someone like harkness and then sticking a mark up ontop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac.calder Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Have a look at the big 3 screen manufacturers. AVStumpflDa-LiteScreen Technics All three will do a really good quality motorised screen of any size. I love AVStumpfl - they are awesome, but the other 2 are really good too. These three companies tend to be the ones that installers go to to get their screens - so if it is only a screen you are after, going direct to the source should serve you well. It will not be cheap though - as you are looking at seamless vinyl welding. Cheaper option would be a standard tensioned roll drop with filled cloth cyc - there will be a slight seam - but it will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techywhizz Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 so.. A couple of quick questions which come to mind.. do you just want the screen itself to go up and down (electric screen) or do you want the whole screen box to be on a winch woming up and down, and then the screen rolls out from there.. This will have a major impact on the price... winch system will add a major cost on both installation, and also on regular maintenance and inspection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHYoung Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Does anyone ever actually offer advice on here any more? It seems that every question gets the same response from certain members (which basically is "yeah I know how to do it, but I'm not going to tell you, rather pitch for the job, even if I'm just going to resell you the services of someone else") Anyway - I would speak to Harkness Hall - they are a UK based manufacturer of screens who can supply custom width screens of any size and shape - they supplied a rather large arch screen for a project I worked on at Manchester Gmex which they have a nice picture of http://www.harkness-...est-screen.html As they offer a complete in house service of design, manufacture and installation they will most likely be cheaper than an AV company who will be using someone like harkness and then sticking a mark up ontop. Really got to take some umbridge here, Firsly stated our interest, yes we do sell these, But my post isnt blatent sales pitch without any usefull content, if you read it its actually a rather sensible suggestion about downsizing the screen backed up with both the reasons and the maths, bourne from the experience of doing this sort of job. If blatant sales is immediately saving the client more than half the money and offering a more usable solution then sorry.To compound matters Sleepy goes on to recomend a company who dont and havent made electric roller screens for a couple of years. Yes Harkness are my first choice for all manner of Screens, but not the one the poster wants as they stopped doing that quite some time ago... My choice would be Screen international who are Italian and will do a direct weekly delivery to the UK and Dalite who are American and wont. the delivery on one of these is going to be significant so if you are getting quotes id be clear you need it to your postcode. Either way you wont be dealing with them directly but an agent. Vested interest or not this isnt a bad thing as you are looking to mount something very long , heavy, electo mechanical at height in a public area and you dont undertake such things lightly, there is nothing particulary difficult, but its not straightforward either and having someone local may with experience may actually ber of some use. with regard to techwhiz post about the screen box going up or down, Screen International make a screen winch system thats well integrated with the screen, but only for units up to 7m in width. Personally id mount the screen on the rear of the proscenium as low as practical so no need for a winch as its out of sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepytom Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I wasn't aiming at your post with that comment. It was aimed at 5dg who seem to offer everything under the sun except any sensible advice or help to other members. The forums should (it seems to me) be a place where people who are working in the industry can ask each other for help and advice, and expect to be given help and advice from people with experience rather than one liner sales pitches. It's news to me that harkness don't do roller screens anymore. I do occasional work in a couple of venues which have reasonably new harkness roll up screens so I hadn't bothered to check to see if they are still doing them. The rest of the points in the thread are sound. Sorry AHYoung I didn't mean to offend you, you've provided helpful advise. I just caught the thread at a bad moment. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHYoung Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I wasn't aiming at your post with that comment. It was aimed at 5dg who seem to offer everything under the sun except any sensible advice or help to other members. The forums should (it seems to me) be a place where people who are working in the industry can ask each other for help and advice, and expect to be given help and advice from people with experience rather than one liner sales pitches. It's news to me that harkness don't do roller screens anymore. I do occasional work in a couple of venues which have reasonably new harkness roll up screens so I hadn't bothered to check to see if they are still doing them. The rest of the points in the thread are sound. Sorry AHYoung I didn't mean to offend you, you've provided helpful advise. I just caught the thread at a bad moment. Sorry. Fair do's just your post directly under mine obviously narked somwhat, agree that its a bit pointless just saying phone us up ill do it... Harkness used to be harkness hall, harkness being the surfaces and hall the mechanicals, the went seperate ways some time ago with harkness continuing to offer electric roller screens and for that mater rebadge the screen international units I have suggested, for whatever reason they stopped a while ago and now dont do roller units. From a buisness point of view not much comes via a online forum. In reality a 10m screen is a 15 grand instal if you actually know what you are doing, its a failed instal and 15 grand to sort it out later if you only think you do... but that level of spend isnt going to be based on someone being first replying to a post on a forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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