Thirdtap Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 'Lo I was looking around a local high street DIY shop recently when I saw some MR16 mains voltage lamps. Now I haven't used these lamps yet, has any Blue room user any more info on them? I noticed that the price was a bit higher for these lamps but if they can be used without a transformer the price should work out slightly better. Ta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew C Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 May not be the same bulbs, but our admin area here has just had lots of them installed in downlighters. 25% of them out at any one time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owen_mcauley Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 I installed a lot of these into a coffee shop, they use a different lamp base with larger terminals as far as I am aware. Your problem with them would really come with PAT, If you have a dimmer circuit with a 10A trip/fuse, then theoretically you should be using 10A rated cable, which could prove difficult to get into a standard birdie and clamp in satisfactorally! not to mention the earth bond between the two shells of the now class 1 lantern! You could argue that the lamp would blow before the cable melts tho! All down to your judgement really and your risk assessments! Are they available in the standard beam angles as well??? Just a few thoughts Owen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadhippy Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 yep got some as well gu10 base,simaler but not the same as a florecent starter base. A few companys are selling birdies ,mini profiles ect designed for them,I think theirs 3 beam angles narrow,medium and wide ,Avalible in a variety of colours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirdtap Posted May 13, 2003 Author Share Posted May 13, 2003 May not be the same bulbs, but our admin area here has just had lots of them installed in downlighters. 25% of them out at any one time I know that there is a problem with MR16 type lamps in fixtures that do allow alot of air flow - mainly flush ceiling fittings. They over heat and blow quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleeting Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Greetings, According to the James Thomas price list they do a birdie fitting to take the mains powered lamp. It is slightly more expensive than the equivelent 12v version. I persume ( or should I) that they are earthed as a class 1 etc... Fleeting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Need Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 We converted most of our birdies over to this mains voltage lamp a couple of years ago. The problem is the cable from the lamp holder is very short, so we ended up with a very sort tail out of the birdie. Had to use an IEC as a 15A plug was too large. The lamps do not last as long as the 12v version, but they are great for sticking a small lamp somewhere at last minute, and no more flamin transformers to lug around either. It you are installing these into a non-theatrical - long term situation I would probably stick to the 12v lamp, cheaper, and they last longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 The experience I have had of them is that the colour temp/output is not as good as a 12v birdie, but I've only used them once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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