Unstable WYSIWYG

[computer]

Heya,

 

I just downloaded and installed the latest demo version of WYSIWYG (sheesh, big download :(). anyway, I've installed it as a demo but it seems to crash about 50% of the time when I go to SHADED view. Now I know it might not be perfect but I have to then Ctrl+Alt+Del it and restart the program. This is even worse as a demo edition doesn't let you save so I have to start from the beginning again. Now I'm considering buying this and it'd cost me hundereds of pounds so this isn't a very good impression!!! :( grr

 

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[colinmonk]

And what specification machine are you running on?

 

Wyg is quite a hefty program, and to perform shaded views and renderings wyg does eat processing power and ram, also graphics cards have been known to cause issues with wyg...

 

Is it only when you run shaded you get the problems? Does it just lock up while your trying to do something? or does it actually crash?

[gareth]

I'd be prepared to bet that you're using an ATI graphics card, yes?

 

WYG has known issues with ATI cards - not all the time (sometimes it can be fine, as it is with the Radeon 7000 in my desktop machine) but there have been lots of reports of WYG falling over regularly on ATI cards. Downloading the latest drivers for your card from the ATI website might help. Otherwise, get yourself a Geforce!

[computer]

I was trying to run it on my laptop actually, it'd be used on there a lot more that my desktop. Its a 1.9Ghz, 512Mb RAM, 40Gb HDD, Grahpics is 64Mb shared I think. Not sure what it is tho - its onboard as usual.

 

If I create something in wireframe CAD then clic kthe Shaded tab at the bottom the main window goes white and locks up.

[the kid]

I had the same problem but ive got know idea how I sorted it.

 

But have you tried going to the quad and expanding the shaded section?

[gareth]

I'd suggest that you should be looking at your video hardware as your main culprit. On-board with 64Mb shared RAM is probably not enough for WYG to do its thing properly. My lappy has a Geforce FX5650 with 128Mb RAM, and it's just about enough to get some sort of decent performance out of WYG Design.

[kalmatthew]

Also what OS? Cast say that there is a problem running under XP SP2. More info Here

[computer]

good point, running XP Pro SP2. I'll install it on my XP Home test machine later (512Mb RAM, 128Mb Radeon, 1.4Ghz)...

[gareth]

Also what OS? Cast say that there is a problem running under XP SP2. More info Here

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I've heard this, too - but I have WYG installed on two different machines, both with SP2, and I've had no problems at all.

[computer]

while I'm playing with it could someone please help me with what bit I'd want. At the moment I'm using the demo version and designing stuff on CAD, then creating looks on design. I assume I can't do much with live as I don't have a console hooked up to my machine via DMX or ethernet. The data views are also quite useful.

 

Which bit(s) exactly would I need to buy to get the same functionality (and at what price). Also, can you get educational discounts for schools or students?

[gareth]

while I'm playing with it could someone please help me with what bit I'd want. At the moment I'm using the demo version and designing stuff on CAD, then creating looks on design. I assume I can't do much with live as I don't have a console hooked up to my machine via DMX or ethernet. The data views are also quite useful.

 

Which bit(s) exactly would I need to buy to get the same functionality (and at what price). Also, can you get educational discounts for schools or students?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Do you mean which version of WYG would you need to be able to draw your rig plan, extract various data views from it, and render static looks? WYG Design. Or if you want to hook up a console and do some real-time simulation for programming, WYG Perform.

 

And yes, they do operate a system of student discounts.

[computer]

hmm I've just done a little rig using 4 Mac 500's and patched them all to DMX 1-14 on patch A and assigned a mini console to it and it works really well, but only two of the lights are working. The settings (Alt+Enter) for each are exactly the same (apart from position, and pan/tilt swap).

 

Any ideas?

[merlin24]

I was trying to run it on my laptop actually, it'd be used on there a lot more that my desktop. Its a 1.9Ghz, 512Mb RAM, 40Gb HDD, Grahpics is 64Mb shared I think. Not sure what it is tho - its onboard as usual.

 

If I create something in wireframe CAD then clic kthe Shaded tab at the bottom the main window goes white and locks up.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Now I'm considering buying this and it'd cost me hundereds of pounds so this isn't a very good impression!!! :) grr

 

Please don't be so quick to slag off Wysiwyg 9 times out of ten it is nothing to do with the program but just under spec'd machines or operator error.

It is not fair to say that Wysiwyg is the fault on an open forum because it probably isn't.

 

What you could try is going to "Options \ Application Options " then click on the Open GL tab and click the safe rendering box, this may resolve the issue.

 

Graphics issues are very random and with out some more info there is not a lot I can say. Does the problem happen at the same point everytime, if not does it happen when you are trying to do somthing etc etc.

Email me off ine and I will have a look for you.

 

Kind Regards

 

Andy.

[merlin24]

Also what OS? Cast say that there is a problem running under XP SP2. More info Here

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There is no firm evidence that there are any problems, all they are saying is that Wysiwyg has not been fully tested yet under SP 2.

Personally I have seen absolutly no issues on my computers and the two products mesh together very well.

 

 

Kind Regards

Andy

[David Buffham]

while I'm playing with it could someone please help me with what bit I'd want. At the moment I'm using the demo version and designing stuff on CAD, then creating looks on design. I assume I can't do much with live as I don't have a console hooked up to my machine via DMX or ethernet. The data views are also quite useful.

 

Which bit(s) exactly would I need to buy to get the same functionality (and at what price). Also, can you get educational discounts for schools or students?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

Anyone involved with education is entitled to buy an educational version of WYSIWYG. The two versions available in an eductional version are WYSIWYG Report and WYSIWYG Design; both versions contain the same functionality as their full-priced equivalent, but any output from the programme, e.g. plans or renders, is watermarked with 'educational use only'; that's the only difference.

 

WYSIWYG Report is the basic WYSIWYG CAD package. With it you can create CAD plans of your productions along with a completely integrated paperwork database. You can create and output scaled lighting plots and all lighting paperwork including fixture schedules, colour and gobo lists. There is no isometric or shaded views in Report; only the 2D views. The student edition is £75 + VAT. At a later stage you can then upgrade your student WYSIWYG Report to standard WYSIWYG Report for a further £75 - this would be compared to a non-student who would have to pay £ 417+VAT to buy the same product!!

 

WYSIWYG Design includes everything in WYSIWYG Report and adds a full 3D environment with shaded and isometric views. You can also create lighting looks from the equipment on your plan and create photo-realistic renders. The price of student WYSIWYG Design is £390 + VAT. Again the cost of upgrading to full WYSIWYG Design at a later date is £200+VAT. This compares to the full price of Design of £1113+VAT. Therefore if you are thinking about getting into WYSIWYG then it is much cheaper for you to do so while you're still a student and can take advantage of the reduced initial purchase and upgrade costs.

 

WYSIWYG Perform, which enables a console to be connected to WYSIWYG for real-time visualisation, is not available as an educational version.

 

The price mentioned above are list prices and any WYSIWYG dealer would be able to provide you with a specific quote. If you contact me off forum then I can provide you with a quote from London Light. Also if you would like a WYSIWYG Demonstration CD and some printed information about the different WYSIWYG products then get in touch and we'll put something in the post to you.