pete10uk Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Hi All Just a quick bit of advice if you would. I have been asked to mic up a violin which is outside my usual scope. I have a few microphones available but none of these are specifically for Violins I.e attach to the instrument. I think I would be tempted to use my AKG c1000s on a stand placed overhead but also have the options of a C747, SM58, SM57 or Sennheiser wireless Lapel mic. I think all would produce sound acceptable for the application, but would like to know which method you would choose / would look most professional. I don't want to look as if I don't have a clue. Any recommendations would be appreciated. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramdram Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Something to get you started and a lot of other tips for an entire orchestra of instruments...but not an "orchestra" as such. Google is your friend and you will retire probably before you read all the current links. http://www.deltamedia.com/resource/mics.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerry davies Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Does anyone still use C-ducers? http://www.c-ducer.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbsy Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Frankly, I would use anything EXCEPT the C1000. That mic has a fairly "screechy" top end response and coupled with a violin it's a fairly unpleasant result. What sort of music and how loud does it have to be? Unless you're trying for really high levels and need the GBF, a nice way to handle this would be with the lapel mic in a hairline mount (Google if you need details of this). A hairline mount keeps the mic the same distance from the violin no matter how much the violinist moves and gives a nice, natural response. This isn't much good in a rock band level situation, but for normal stuff it works really well. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 In my experience the mic to use is a DPA 4060 04 4061 with string mounts. Not only does it sound like a violin, the artist can't walk away from it, the string mount is rubber and attaches to the strings above the bridge not touching the precious violin. Overspill is minimal, I have had four of these on violas and violins sat right next to a drum kit and had reasonable isolation. I know this is not one of the mics you suggested as available but these can be hired for about £15 and will solve all your problems. Failing that from your list I would go for the 57 myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Pearce Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 For high gain before feedback an MKE2 or similar mounted (very carefully!) to the bridge can give a natural but loud and clear signal. It needs a little eq, but gives you bags of gain before squeals appear. For high fidelity a decent condensor (that is anything other than a C1000. Seriously use an SM58 instead. Or a 5.99 maplins mic. Or a halibut. All known to sound better than a C1000!) sat in front on the opposite of the player to the violin pointed at the edge of the fingerboard works beautifully. But only on a quietish stage where bleed isn't a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivemaster Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 The FIRST thing to consider is the style of play and the surrounding noise. Then try to consider whether the muso needs to be mobile or whether they can actually sit still by a stand mic ( most can't! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
organised confusion Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 For Vanessa May we put a 747 in her hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramdram Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 747? Crikey I had no idea she was that strong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Lewis Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 If you can't go to the expense of a DPA, a 747 is too heavy and the Halibut (who is called Eric) is going off, the Audio Technica's ATM350 may well be of interest... http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/resource_library/product_images/326aac71cfaa0cdf/med/atm350_violin.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Owen Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 For Vanessa May we put a 747 in her hair.I'd love to see a picture of that if you have one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish_AV_in London Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Guys you should try the Shertler Range of portable Transducers. They fit onto the body of the instrument and give a warmer sound than a microphone fitted near the bridge and there is less chance of it falling off... http://www.schertler....co.uk/dyn.html :) For Vanessa May we put a 747 in her hair.I'd love to see a picture of that if you have one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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