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ETC Element - Single LTP attribute to sub


Daveman

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Earlier I was trying to put a hazer on a sub earlier using an ETC element. I wanted to put the haze output on one sub and the fan control on another. I'd patched the hazer in from the fixture library.

 

However when setting haze to full to record it as a sub, the fan speed was also recorded at a value of 0 onto that sub. As these are LTP elements, each sub affected the other, and the element does not allow the sub type to be changed to HTP.

 

Is there a way to select a single attribute of the fixture and record only that to the sub, without the other parameters in that category (beamshape in this case) being recorded as well?

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Earlier I was trying to put a hazer on a sub earlier using an ETC element. I wanted to put the haze output on one sub and the fan control on another. I'd patched the hazer in from the fixture library.

 

 

I dont know if this is much use or not! When we use a hazer with 2 channels, I just patch both channels in as dimmer channels, meaning you can easily put them onto a sub and control them individually as if they were just two conventionals :D

 

Hope this helps!

 

Max :)

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I dont know if this is much use or not! When we use a hazer with 2 channels, I just patch both channels in as dimmer channels, meaning you can easily put them onto a sub and control them individually as if they were just two conventionals :D

 

Hope this helps!

 

Max :)

 

This is what I did in the end, however I'd like to know if there's a way to do it with a fixture definition, in case I need to do it in the future (more likely with more complex fixtures).

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You can use the Selective Store functionality for this.

 

With the channel(s) selected and the parameter(s) at the right level, click the button in the ML Controls for the attribute you want.

(If the channel isn't selected, the ML Controls only show parameter groups.)

 

This gives a command line like this:

Channel 1 Haze

You can then Record it as needed eg:

Channel 1 Haze [Record] [sub] 1 [Enter]

You can Record multiple specific parameters by clicking the ML controls buttons of several parameters as necessary, and remove them from existing record targets with the @ [Enter] syntax.

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You can use the Selective Store functionality for this.

 

With the channel(s) selected and the parameter(s) at the right level, click the button in the ML Controls for the attribute you want.

(If the channel isn't selected, the ML Controls only show parameter groups.)

 

This gives a command line like this:

Channel 1 Haze

You can then Record it as needed eg:

Channel 1 Haze [Record] [sub] 1 [Enter]

You can Record multiple specific parameters by clicking the ML controls buttons of several parameters as necessary, and remove them from existing record targets with the @ [Enter] syntax.

 

Out of interest Tomo, is there a way to directly reference an attribute channel?

 

For example, on a 500 series, I can type '1.2 Sub 1 record' to record a colour channel onto a sub (e.g. for a scroller)

 

The way you have described is akin to saving a colour on a 500 series by typing '1 Attrib Colour Sub 1 Record' (or something along those lines), where personally, I usually take the shortcut that I have described.

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For example, on a 500 series, I can type '1.2 Sub 1 record' to record a colour channel onto a sub (e.g. for a scroller)
That's a totally different concept I'm afraid, the idea simply doesn't apply.

 

In Eos/Ion/Element attributes simply don't have numbers, they have names.

So the 'name' of the attribute is the direct reference to it.

 

- Something else to think about is that the Strand 500 series had a maximum of 127 possible attributes, while Eos has several thousand.

Not really something you'd want to remember, or print out either.

 

On Eos and Ion you also get filtered attribute tiles in the CIA.

Element doesn't have these helpers as it's intended more as a generics console with the 'occasional' moving light.

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