back stage man Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 we are trying to create a wireless headset system but we dont have alot of money to work with and cannot install anything in the walls or run any wires through the cealing. We need this system to run about 100 to 200 feet and to have one muff headsets. help me!!!!!!!!!!mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GridGirl Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 If you do a search, you'll discover that we've discussed this before. The general consensus is that if you want proper full-duplex comms, like a wired system but wireless, then it will cost you big bucks. There are radio solutions, but they're not generally full duplex - only one person can talk at a time. Even if you can't run cables through the walls or the ceiling, can you tape them down along a wall, out of the way? A wired system is cheaper and more reliable than any wireless system, even the most expensive ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back stage man Posted February 28, 2011 Author Share Posted February 28, 2011 If you do a search, you'll discover that we've discussed this before. The general consensus is that if you want proper full-duplex comms, like a wired system but wireless, then it will cost you big bucks. There are radio solutions, but they're not generally full duplex - only one person can talk at a time. Even if you can't run cables through the walls or the ceiling, can you tape them down along a wall, out of the way? A wired system is cheaper and more reliable than any wireless system, even the most expensive ones. thanks we dont want anything peramimt or anything that takes alot of time to put together and the one person talking thing is perfict and exactly what we wantthanks.mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljoshua Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Go out and buy some bog standard 2way radios with headset ports and connect a headset/earpiece to each. Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerry davies Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Go to Search above and enter "Walkie Talkies as Cans" and you will find what Gridgirl advised you take a look at. Radio comms have all sorts of drawbacks and the discussion there is fairly comprehensive. The worst case scenario comes about when some idiot presses the talk button and holds it down preventing any communication whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ynot Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 thanks we dont want anything peramimt or anything that takes alot of time to put together and the one person talking thing is perfict and exactly what we wantSorry, Mike, but why is a half-duplex (ie one person talking at a time) exactly what you want?Have you really considered this as a workable solution? Buying for occasional use is also the most expensive route - look at what you need and when then look at a rental solution, be it decent quality proper wireless headsets or cabled sets and work out how you can get from A to B to C with the runs. MANY venues used a cabled temporary solution all the time without major issue. But if it's just because you couldn't be ar5ed to run in a couple of XLR cables, then maybe you should rethink the priorities... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tolley1466 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Have you got an audio multicore installed or any mic lines? You could run your comms line down that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGSD Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Have you got an audio multicore installed or any mic lines? You could run your comms line down that. You could - but you run the risk of electronic interference on audio lines in the mult! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsabre Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 You could - but you run the risk of electronic interference on audio lines in the mult! ?? Really, what sort of interference would that be then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAG1960 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Have you got an audio multicore installed or any mic lines? You could run your comms line down that. You could - but you run the risk of electronic interference on audio lines in the mult! Very Unlikely if you are using a fully balanced multicore. I have even run comms on my oldest multi withh an overall screen, rather than screened pairs, with no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedd Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I can't think of a technical problem with it when all's working correctly. That said, I don't do it! I have a 50m 3 pin XLR cable on a drum which I run in next to my multi's for comms. Reasons can be largely practical - I don't always want the coms turning up where the multicore drum is, I don't want the comms cable turning up at the back of the desk on the tails, I want it to be long enough to get to the beltpack/base station without another joining lead.Yes all should be fine, but unless forced my rule is "don't get into a situation where you need to find out". There are some posts on here about plantronics headsets (DECT) being used as a duplex intercom. I still think there's a gap in the market for a single channel box that plugs into a wired multicore system, has a transmitter no bigger than a beltpack and connects wirelessly to a beltpack/headset. Situations where it's easy to get cables around a stage but you want one headset front of house, or where your SM wants to be able to go walkies. If it could be made to be affordable (£300-£400 ish) then I could see lots of potential uses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boatman Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 .. I still think there's a gap in the market for a single channel box that plugs into a wired multicore system, has a transmitter no bigger than a beltpack and connects wirelessly to a beltpack/headset. Situations where it's easy to get cables around a stage but you want one headset front of house, or where your SM wants to be able to go walkies. If it could be made to be affordable (£300-£400 ish) then I could see lots of potential uses. Such a box already exists in the Tecpro AD913. I regularly use one with a couple of PMR446 radios to provide roaming comms in addition to our six wired beltpacks. It only provides simplex comms but is ideal for our usage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GridGirl Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I still think there's a gap in the market for a single channel box that plugs into a wired multicore system, has a transmitter no bigger than a beltpack and connects wirelessly to a beltpack/headset. Situations where it's easy to get cables around a stage but you want one headset front of house, or where your SM wants to be able to go walkies. If it could be made to be affordable (£300-£400 ish) then I could see lots of potential uses. Something like this? I've not used it so can't comment on how effective it is, but it seems like a useful piece of equipment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsabre Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Something like this? I've not used it so can't comment on how effective it is, but it seems like a useful piece of equipment! That particular one uses a radio frequency which is only legal in the US unfortunately. ...although they also do a 2.4GHz version which would be legal everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_s Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Something like this? I've not used it so can't comment on how effective it is, but it seems like a useful piece of equipment! That particular one uses a radio frequency which is only legal in the US unfortunately. ...although they also do a 2.4GHz version which would be legal everywhere.That's OK then because the poster is in Michigan ... but good to know for those of us on this side of the pond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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