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pete10uk

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Hi All

 

This might not be the correct forum to ask this question as this is not pro equipment but its worth ago.

 

Without going into the in's and out's, I have a Sony Handycam and a Sony Handycam Remote tripod. The remote on the tripod connects to the camera via the same connector as the composite video out comes out of the camera. ( A small D shaped connector).

The issue is I need to use both the remote and video out at the same time, I can't find any advise on weather this is possible with any gadgets or available accessories or if I can splice the cable at all.

 

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks in advance.

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Without going into the in's and out's, I have a Sony Handycam and a Sony Handycam Remote tripod.

 

Stating the exact model of the camera and tripod would give people a good starting point to assist you :)

 

Thanks for the quick reply

 

I have left the model of the equipment off purposely as it is irrelevant. Anyone who has the knowledge of what I'm after, will know the connector, as it is standard across the Handycam range.

 

This is not done to be rude or difficult, only trying not to waste peoples time looking in to the other connections available.

 

Thanks again for the reply.

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Refusing to answer that question makes it impossible to give you any advice at all.

 

Sony have a number of different AV connectors, and a number of different systems for remote control of camera functions. If you tell us what camera + tripod you have then we might be able to tell you the answer to your question.

 

If you think their is a standard sony connector across their entire range of cameras then you simply lack the experience in using a wide range of sony cameras. There are at least 4 types of connector that I see on sony handycams on a regular basis.

 

If you tell me the model of camera you have + the tripod your using I can probably answer your question for you.

 

If not I'd just say to use the LanC connector for control which is as common across the handycam range as any of the D shape connectors... trouble is that I doubt your camera has one... If only I know what model it was I might be able to offer something useful to you...

 

 

 

 

 

Oh the answer is http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/sony-hvr-a1-hdr-hc-series/120395-hdr-hc9-v-remote-terminal-lanc.html if you want to actually know...

 

But (again if you had totld us the camera model this would be easier) your camera MAY still have a traditional 2.5mm LanC control socket which would be the best way of controlling it if you don't/ can't get a DIY cable solution to work.

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Hi there

 

Sorry you seem to taking my lack of information in the totally wrong way.

 

I know what information I require and I'm trying to avoid lots of replies and time spent by all you kind people, trying to figure out and suggesting alternatives solutions, I can do this myself or would post a specific question with the relevant information when or if I get to that point.

 

Oh the answer is http://www.dvinfo.ne...minal-lanc.html if you want to actually know...

 

But (again if you had totld us the camera model this would be easier) your camera MAY still have a traditional 2.5mm LanC control socket which would be the best way of controlling it if you don't/ can't get a DIY cable solution to work.

 

Thanks for adding the additional information to your post, unfortunately this is not the information I require, I found this information before posting on blue room, but it doesn't address my query.

 

In my original post I mentioned the D shaped connector and the Title of the post has AV Remote in it. My apologise for not putting these together or making it more obvious. the connector I have is the D shaped connector Called by Sony the "A/V Remote Connector", I believe that this is now present in all current models of the Handycam range and has taken over from the older LanC jack you mentioned.

 

I know that the A/V Remote Connector is a 10 pin connector, pins 2 & 8 are used for the LanC protocol Pin 4 is +5v (not sure if the +5v is to do with the LanC protocol but that’s irrelevant) and pin 7 & 3 need a 100K Resistor between them to tell the camera that a remote is connected. Pin 9 is Composite Video (+) and Pin 8 is Composite Video Ground.

What I need to know is if I can get a cable or adaptor to allow both of these different functions to work at the same time or if I need to source a fully wired A/V Remote Connector and butcher the connections to suit my requirements, and if so where can I get hold of one, and finally would the camera physically stop outputting the video signal on detecting a that a remote was connected.

 

Just for information the camera is a Sony HDRXR155EB and the tripod is a Sony VCT-80AV

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The camera will not stop outputting video with the remote connected

http://www.digi-dat.de/produkte/index_eng.html#AVR_LANC would work with a normal LanC controller.

 

You won't be able to use that sony tripod an get video out at the same time as it has the wrong type of connector. You want a normal LanC remote such as a varizoom + a decent tripod like a mafrotto 501HDV.

 

TBH I would just sell the camera and get something which has proper connectors on it, your talking about a serious level of expense to make a £400 camcorder usable. An old SD camcorder such as a PD150 wil have a far better composite video quality than any new "HD" handycam so if the camera is just for live feeds then stick with something tried and tested (3CCD camera - PD150, DVX100, XM2 etc etc)

 

re-read the DVinfo thread - it has all the information in it to make your camera work, the only question is is it worth the expense to have a bodged together system when replacing the camera with something else could be a better option?

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Thanks for the info, the digi dat link certainly proves that in theory my setup will work it's just down to sourcing or making the right connector.

They actually make what I need but it would give me a different controller and cost 400 euro per camera and I have 4 to adapt.

 

Your comment on selling the camera is exactly the reason I left off the information in the first place, these cameras have been specifically chosen for the features required for this project and are in budget, I didn't want to open up the whole discussion on changing the kit because the reasons for the various requirements are quite complex and would open up many discussions, many off topic.

It's a severe case of assumption as the remotes on the tripods have a little socket to store the cable in when not in use but socket has no connections in it, I assumed that they did and it was a loop through to enable the video out and other functions.

 

I will source the some fully wired cables and make an adaptor.

 

Thanks again for all you help

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Your comment on selling the camera is exactly the reason I left off the information in the first place, these cameras have been specifically chosen for the features required for this project and are in budget, I didn't want to open up the whole discussion on changing the kit because the reasons for the various requirements are quite complex and would open up many discussions, many off topic.

but having a working video output is also a requirement (we can presume this requirement is considerably more important than some of the others which you think you need.. )

 

I like the way you don't want to trust us with any real information about what your trying to do. You seem to of selected completely inappropriate equipment for the task in hand but won't tell us the task and let us make suggestions as to other ways of getting it to work.

 

Oh well I wish you all the best with it. I'm sure you can spend a couple of grand working it out on your own...

 

Really why bother to wast our time with this. Either tell us what your doing and we can be helpful or work it out for yourself. If (as you claim) you'd already read the thread on dvinfo, but couldn't work out that it answered your questions then maybe you'd benefit from the help of some people with experience of doing what your trying... If you'd tell us what that is then you might be surprised to discover someone else has some experience that could save you hundreds or thousands of pounds spent on useless equipment that will not be suitable for the task.

 

 

 

 

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  • 7 months later...

I'm have the same problem Pete has and I understand his frustration.

 

My church has a very limited budget and I'm using the Sony camera to stream live video on the internet. We also have the same tripod and camera Pete has.

 

My question is simple: Is there any "Y" adapter on the market for those "Sony A/V Remote Connectors", so that way, we could connect both the tripod and the A/V cable?

 

Would it be hard to buy the parts and make one?

 

Thank you!

 

George

 

 

 

I actually found a solution for about US$90...

 

I got and adapter with LANC conversion + A/V out and a new Remote Commander:

 

http://studio1produc...com/lanc-sa.htm

http://www.bhphotovi..._Commander.html

I hope this helps someone else with the same dilemma.

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