son of lx dad Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 From a first viewing of the above post, it does seem as if the 'rope' attached to the performer is cut through by the edge of the platform as it comes under load and 'stretches'. I would have expected a 'not clipped on properly' type scenario but this video could point to other problems - surely predictable....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the kid Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 I believe that video is a new accident. I was going for a tension / too much slack. How much can you earn from selling a video to a new agency / TMZ ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_s Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 This was picked up by a climbing forum I frequent, and their conclusion is that the failure was almost certainly caused by the dynamic rope being loaded over the edge and snapping - dynamic ropes really do not like being loaded over sharp edges. Entirely predictable, and obvious to any recreational climber. It makes you wonder how it escaped the attention of the professionals they have no doubt consulted to design/rig this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImagineerTom Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 The terminology and date in that article are misleading - this is the accident from the start of the week (unless the same stuntman checked out of hospital and returned to the show to re-create his accident) but now they've got the performance footage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wycome5 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 On a show with such a good budget, why does the Green Goblin appear to be a wooden cut out? Does anyone know how this fits into the show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilflet Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 On a show with such a good budget, why does the Green Goblin appear to be a wooden cut out? I was wondering that myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_s Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 On a show with such a good budget, why does the Green Goblin appear to be a wooden cut out? I was wondering that myself perhaps because there's not much budget for anything else after they've paid the insurance premiums ?? :** laughs out loud **: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrummerJonny Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 This was picked up by a climbing forum I frequent, and their conclusion is that the failure was almost certainly caused by the dynamic rope being loaded over the edge and snapping - dynamic ropes really do not like being loaded over sharp edges. Entirely predictable, and obvious to any recreational climber. It makes you wonder how it escaped the attention of the professionals they have no doubt consulted to design/rig this.You'd think so. I've climbed maybe 3 times in my life, to all intents and purposes know nothing about ropes, and I still wouldn't want a rope hanging of an edge like that, regardless of the load on it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLightsTech Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 I'm fairly certain from whats been said that it was some sort of wire-rope or aircraft cable, and that in normal use it would never have contacted the edge. The rope was meant to restrain him so he could lean forward without falling, not to control his fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seano Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 I've climbed maybe 3 times in my life, to all intents and purposes know nothing about ropes, and I still wouldn't want a rope hanging of an edge like that, regardless of the load on it...Loading a rope over a sharp edge is indeed a very bad idea, but the edge of that platform doesn't look particularly sharp to me - as far as I can make out from the wobble-o-vision clip I'm looking at the lip seems to have a radius of curvature comparable to a scaff tube - significantly bigger than the average carabiner. (Which climbing ropes do get loaded over, routinely and repeatedly, with no problems at all.) I don't know what kind of rope that is in the cilp, but it definitely isn't a climbing rope. Something akin to a bungee I would guess, but stunts aren't really my bag. Clearly something was very wrong with that stunt, but I don't think the cause is necessarily as obvious as you seem to think it is. Maybe someone made a serious error of judgement - based on my experience I think its more common for accidents like this to result from a whole series of more minor errors, misjudgments and 'unfortunate events'. For you to assume that the single, simple cause was the stunt coordinator being a complete idiot is really quite insulting - its not impossible I suppose, but given the nature of this show its *really* not very likely. I'm fairly certain ...No you're not. How could you be? You have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Seano: He's a student. Don't you realise they know everything :** laughs out loud **: I have to say that I'm starting to loose faith in my earlier comments, and my opinion is definitely changing. A few glitches in preview are fair enough, but with the accidents happening at the rate they are, I suspect it is going to take a bit more than a re-write. Cheers, and happy festive occasions. Smiffy Edit: having actually now watched the VT. How anyone can make any assumptions beyond Seano's Curved edge, and that the rope broke is beyond me :** laughs out loud **: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLightsTech Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 I'm fairly certain ...No you're not. How could you be? You have no idea. I'm fairly certain based on the statements Actors Equity (actors union), IATSE (crew union), and OSHA (government health and safety at work) released, as well as a description of the action sequence from someone from Spiderman that's online, and a few other sources I can't name. Sorry I didn't elaborate on that earlier. Oh, and sorry I hadn't updated my profile. I am still taking classes for an unrelated degree, but I certainly work in the industry now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obsoperator Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Cut, no. Let's report evidence, not a personal impression of a very hazy lo-res video streamed over pirate-ship radio-internet: "...after he fell more than 20 feet during a scene in which his safety tether became unfastened and he, as Spider-Man, plunged..." http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/...m-about-safety/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musht Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 A quick round up on the show so far: http://gizmodo.com/5716935/the-spiderman-m...nese-news+style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
litemog Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Apparently "The Lion King" took £34 million at the box office last year in the West End alone. In that context the $65 million punted on Spiderman doesn't look quite as crazy after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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