Picture in Picture in Portait display

[djmatthill]

Hello ,

 

Iv got a problem that I hope you can solve.

 

 

I have got a 42" TV that is positioned on the wall in Portrait position ( mounted on its side).

 

I need to purchase a piece of hardware that will allow me to display 2 composite video images - one on the top & one on the bottom.

 

Karmer produce a scaler that will place 2 video images side by side , but NOT rotated.

 

 

Basically need a device that will display picture in picture and rotate both images by 90 Degress to display on portrait monitor.

 

... Please note ~_

 

Both video feeds are composite video only .

 

The output to the screen MUST be composite video only.

 

The 2 compsite video feeds cannot be rotated before the signal reaches the scaler or device.

 

 

Thanks very much.

 

 

Matt

[AHYoung]

do you need 2 landscape images one on top of another on a portrait monitor? its actually trickier than it sounds as you need to reverse rotate, stack then rotate again, also if its composite video only, you probably need to scan convert as well, its all possible but to my mind the combination of boxes required makes it all a bit messy, or you use a media server{catalyst / hippo etc} and scan convert the output at vast expense. The Kramer 728 729 730 Scalers can do The PIP and can also rotate the output by 90 degrees, but it doesnt work as you might first think as you get a pillar boxed portrait image in a landscape frame, to do what you want you need to rotate then overscan or zoom to fill the frame cropping top and bottom. The kramer will do the rotation and some zoom, but not enough so if you can also zoom on the panel it might work... however the scaler will only PIP or split screen a video and Graphics input, not 2 video inputs and you also need to pre rotate the video...

 

Im assuming the feeds are live cameras as if its prerecorded footage, you simply composite it and render it with the rotation.

 

 

would it not be easier to replace the one portrait monitor with 2 smaller ones on top of each other ? its going to be both the cheapest and best quality solution...

[obrown81]

If this were to be a temporary solution perhaps QLAB could work?

 

Two capture cards.. > arrange/rotate images using qlab > scan convertor on the output

 

I have not done this but it is within the capabilities of the software. Probably not suitable for a permanent installation though and there would be some latency.

 

Alternatively perhaps could you use a quad cctv processor to stack the images and then rotate/zoom to the part of the image you want using a kramer/etc... as the previous poster suggested? I dont know if you could zoom enough to do this...

 

Oliver