LS 9 EFFECTS

[tml07]

Well a little confused with the manual.

looking to put reverb on specific mics.

not sure how after reading it. Can anyone make it a little clear?

[Bobbsy]

It's just like putting effects on certain channels with an analogue board except you patch in software, not with physical cables.

 

In short, put the effects channel you wish to use in a virtual effects rack. Set the input to be a spare Aux channel and route the output back to a spare channel fader (or faders for stereo effects). Turn up the appropriate Auxes on the mic channels you wish to add reverb to--you'll probably want to set it to be a post fade aux for reverb. Turn up the master send for the Aux you're using to send the mic channel(s) to the effect. Bring up the channel fader, routed into your main mix, for the effects return. Obviously, you'll have to select a reverb effect and tweak the settings to sound right.

 

To give you a fully detailed account of every button and knob to do this would take many paragraphs but if you work through that list with the manual in front of you, you should get there.

 

Bob

[tml07]

THANKS BOB for giving me your time I do appreciate it

sorry to be redundant, the default is mix 13, (this is where I would assign the channels right? )

then default is sent to 4 stereo out put. In my case FOH.

So from the effects rack to a channel fader which will go to FOH (or where I want it )

The channel fader I send it to will allow me to add the reverb when I want it correct? ( after I have tweaked the effect)

[TimmyP1955]

Have a look at my console file. It has three effects set up on sends, and one inserted in a bus that's set up as a group (vocals) (heed the notes about the two vocal groups). http://www.padrick.net/LiveSound/YamahaLS9ConsoleFile.htm

[tml07]

so I used the standard mix 13 to left stereo in . When I cue the stereo channel I hear it but it is barely heard in the FOH

Plus when I got it to a nice effect it burst into a uncontrolled loop of feedback.

I see you have the effect sent to a channel strip (not sure how u did that, is this where you would insert in a channel strip)

The building we are in is a theatre style room so the room is dead. I tried reverb hall and it sounded weird. The only place I really want to use it is when we have a soft song and I want to add effect to it. I no that is alot. We set up and tear down every Sunday so testing which effect is good there isn't much time. Thanks

[Shez]

Have you got anybody near you who can actually get to the desk? Trying to remotely troubleshoot this kind of thing with a digi desk is far from easy when you consider all the possible routing / gain structure options! Alternatively, can you save a console file to a USB stick & upload it somewhere - it should then be easy for anyone to open that up & have a look at what's going on. I'd certainly have a look for you.

[Bobbsy]

I think Shez's suggestion that you need to find somebody who can talk you through things with the board in front of you is a good one. Using the input and output routings should be "LS9 101" so you have some reading and practice to do.

 

However, some basic thoughts on using reverb on ANY board:

 

First off, it's entirely normal to bring the "wet" reverb signal back into the mixer on a spare channel strip. You then use this to turn the effect on and off but, more important, you can also balance the ratio between the original signal(s) and the reverb. To much reverb will sound weird. It is also "added on" to the original signal so adding too much increases the overall level and, as you found out, gets you into the zone of feedback. Getting the balance right is something to do by ear--you want enough to give you the fullness you're after but not sound over the top...or take you into feedback.

 

Beyond this though, depending on what you want, you'll likely want to tweak the parameters on the effect itself. The Yamaha effects have lots of changes you can make to get them exactly right--this is both a blessing and a curse depending on how much time you have. You can try a preset with a smaller room size...or tweak the button called "early reflections" or "initial reflections" a bit to shorten the delay time.

 

...but I think you'd gain more from having somebody next to your to talk you through things.

 

Bob

[TimmyP1955]

so I used the standard mix 13 to left stereo in . When I cue the stereo channel I hear it but it is barely heard in the FOH

Plus when I got it to a nice effect it burst into a uncontrolled loop of feedback.

 

The feedback is because one or both of the channels into which the reverb is being returned are being fed into the bus that you are using as the reverb send - a feedback loop. The return channels must be routed to the mains, and must not be routed anywhere else (at least for now).

[BoogieBear]

Hi there

 

As said above hard to be specific on a forum because of all the variables

 

Try this for starters:

 

On the main panel, press the AUX 13 button twice to enter the 'sends on fader mode' Make sure the four stereo return indicators in the top right corner of the display are all turned fully anticlockwise to the OFF position (you can do this by using the four control knobs associated with the four stereo return busses Next. lift raise the fader of the channel that you want the reverb on to around -5 or odB Next Press the HOME button now raise turn the control pot on STEREO RETURN 1 clockwise until the indicator in the top right hand corner of the display is set to around the 3 o'clock position

 

You should now have a fairly audible amount of the effect that you selected in the RACKS 5 tab

 

I hope this helps you

 

Cheers

Anton

[andyandy]

Well a little confused with the manual.

looking to put reverb on specific mics.

not sure how after reading it. Can anyone make it a little clear?

 

Hi - we have an LS9 and used to have this problem

 

- The effects on the LS9 are preset to return on the Stereo Returns 1 to 4.

 

- the key for us was to remember to turn the Stereo Return knobs up to three quarters and make sure they are not muted.

You can see if they are turned up in the top right part of the screen on home page.

 

so... for example we use Mix 13 to send to a reverb. Check to see where the reverb is returning on your LS9 and make sure it is turned up and unmuted.

 

Then use sends on fader for Mix13 to send to the reverb. Am happy to talk this through in the phone if you are still in trouble.

 

(you can of course change this and set the effect to return down a couple of channels on the main desk which may be less confusing. On an LS916 in particular it can get confusing because there are only 2 physical Stereo Return knobs on the desk so to access Stereo return knobs 1 and 2 you ned to be on the page that looks at channels 1 to 16 whilst to access Stereo return knob 3 and Stereo Return knob 4 you need to be on page that looks at channels 17-32. SOunds very confusing but once you get used to it you'll be fine!!)

 

 

Andy