RCF ART 722a

[funkyron]

Evening everyone, I'm sure my final descision will be made by a demo of them but is it worth paying another £500 for the Art 722a over the 712a? We run a mobile disco & need something that would do a room with 40 people in it to 500...& yes I will be adding at least one sub in time, hopefully the pro 8003-as. I know you should get more 'throw' from the 2" cd in the 722 but does it noticeably cover more area?

[TonyMitchell]

Evening everyone, I'm sure my final descision will be made by a demo of them but is it worth paying another £500 for the Art 722a over the 712a? We run a mobile disco & need something that would do a room with 40 people in it to 500...& yes I will be adding at least one sub in time, hopefully the pro 8003-as. I know you should get more 'throw' from the 2" cd in the 722 but does it noticeably cover more area?

 

 

The 722a plays just 1dB louder than the 712a and the dispertion patterns are identical.

However the 722a does play lower.

[Eastcoast]

I've just seen this post.

 

 

I went for the 722's over the 712's for Mobile disco use. I reckon there is little in it sound wise and probably the £400 difference could have been spent on a Denon mixer. That said the 722'a do sound better.

[Alec]

It's a tough call, like you say, as there is quite a price hike.

 

In the end I went for the 722s, but only after comparison with the 725 (in case I really wanted the 15" driver, which I didn't) & 710 (which I already had). They do sound fab, so I just bit the bullet & paid the money. Now it's spent, I don't regret it for a moment!

 

If you have the opportunity to audition, it would be interesting to compare against the 400 series. They are a whole load cheaper, but still pretty well powered. I just don't know how much of a lesser beast they will be, as I've not played with them yet.

[teb335]

Not sure about the 722 v712, but on your comment re the 4pro 8003 - I landed on a couple of these to go with the 725s a while ago and love them - far far better (tighter/defined sounding) than both the 705 from rcf or the mackie 1801s that I had previously.

[funkyron]

Thanks for the comments re the 712 v 722 guys, it's gonna come down to a demo.

Does anyone know of dealers likely to have demo stock in the Lincs/Notts area?

[Greg RCF]

The PMT stores hold good demo stock and so does Simon at East Midlands sound and light in Grantham.

 

Let me know if you need more info.

 

Regards

 

Greg

[Dave Ferris]

The PMT stores hold good demo stock and so does Simon at East Midlands sound and light in Grantham.

 

Let me know if you need more info.

 

Regards

 

Greg

 

How about in LA ? :** laughs out loud **:

Seriously, RCF has a ZERO presence out here. I did get the new LA rep's # from RCF USA . I gave them a call and hopefully they can get the 710,712, 722 & TT22A for me to hear. Waiting to hear back..........

[Dave Ferris]

Bumping this RCF 700 series thread again. Still have not had the opportunity to hear ANY RCF 700 speakers here in LA.http://www.blue-room.org.uk/public/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif

 

Do any users that deal with live sound or musical instruments such as digital piano, think the 712A might sound a little "sweeter" then the 722A ? That was mentioned to me in passing by one RCF rep at the NAMM show this past Jan.

 

My application is Jazz, with the piano and sometimes vocals too. Basically RCF is invisible in the States and it's very hard to find any current user opinions on the 710,712 and 722.

 

Thanks in advance.

[OneEng]

I really wanted to hear them too (Detroit area). I ended up going with the Yamaha DSR112's. You should be able to give those a listen at your local GC. They are impressive.

[Dave Ferris]

I really wanted to hear them too (Detroit area). I ended up going with the Yamaha DSR112's. You should be able to give those a listen at your local GC. They are impressive.

 

I finally did get to hear the Yamahas yesterday in the GC. First off my application or wants are probably a little different then most.

I'm looking for a speaker/speakers that will basically give me the most detailed, non-harsh, non-digital, smooth as silk sound for my "digital" (http://www.blue-room.org.uk/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) piano....without having to spend 5K + on a pair of L'Acoustics, Meyer or Turbosound NUQs.

DPs are the hardest instrument to get right live imo, especially when the context is more Acoustic based music like Jazz. And piano players are among the pickiest bunch of pias around.http://www.blue-room.org.uk/public/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif

 

The DSR112 does sound good ! Especially at that price point. I wasn't able to bring my Yamaha CP5 in as space was tight but I was able to persuade them to bring a Korg SV-1 from the keyboard room to demo with. Since my RCF TT08As are very small and don't take up a lot of space I brought one along just has a point of reference.

 

The DSR112 has a big sound in the low end and clear in the highs. Almost "too" big in the lows for me. After A/B ing the Yamaha with my RCF, even though it's an 8" to 12", I still preferred the RCF's more open, natural detailed sound to the DSR112 box.

The Yamaha with its 12" speaker obviously sounded "bigger", but through the DSR112 , the Korg's Acoustic piano, Rhohes and Wurlitzer sounds all came across a bit more digital or jarring as opposed to more of a smoother studio monitor vibe from the TT08A.

 

So while I think for someone using the DSR112s in a more rock application for foh vocals would be very happy, this was not the sound I was looking for.

 

I was told by the local RCF rep that he's working on getting the 722 and TT22A , one of each, for me to compare. I've been working on this since last Oct. so I hope it can happen next week or very soon after.

I'll post my thoughts after getting a chance to hear both boxes for anyone interested.

[OneEng]

Thanks for the review Dave. You are correct that the application I auditioned the speakers for was as FOH vocals for a rock band ;) I also was unable to find anywhere local to hear the RCF's. This was disappointing since many sound professionals on various forums (including this one) give them very high marks indeed.

 

Also, the way I tested was to equalize each speaker to my liking using the presonus parametric channel eq and then play different music through them (and I also sang through them). The DSR's had too much on the HF and did get a cut in the HF range.

 

Good luck!