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Max,

 

You asked a very specific question about a specific TV broadcast but when someone offers to ask a person who was involved in producing that very lighting effect you dismiss it out of hand. Why? Seems odd to me...

 

Actually, the question wasn't really specific - 'A' song in 'AN' episode of the series without mentioning who/when...

 

I'd say that the OP has in fact got more than enough info to be going on with, and it's unlikely that the original LD will be able to offer a great deal more...

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Max,

 

You asked a very specific question about a specific TV broadcast but when someone offers to ask a person who was involved in producing that very lighting effect you dismiss it out of hand. Why? Seems odd to me...

 

Actually, the question wasn't really specific - 'A' song in 'AN' episode of the series without mentioning who/when...

 

I'd say that the OP has in fact got more than enough info to be going on with, and it's unlikely that the original LD will be able to offer a great deal more...

 

That was what I thought - we've got more than enough (including several different ways to do it), so there's no real point in possibly annoying someone by asking them something that we have already established ;)

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But Max - we've not established anything?

It's like asking how did David Copperfield do the magic trick with the vanishing Pickup truck, and having lots of very sensible suggestions - but NOT taking the opportunity of asking somebody who works with him!

 

You have plenty of suggestions, but no accurate answer.

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Hi, bit of a basic and stupid question, but you've got to learn at some point! :** laughs out loud **:

Thanks, and sorry if this isnt very clear!

 

Max :D

 

I think I actually remember what you're talking about. There was one specific segment from the show that had a very bright front illumination (and, if I recall correctly), beams of light visible through the haze, giving a gereral angle of illumination.

 

There were no followspot beams visible on the stage, so the result looked pretty amazing, however, after watching this rather hideous video:

 

 

You really get the overall illumination on the stage, weather side front or otherwise.

 

I think the key to this subject, is to find the footage you're referring to, as the clip I posted above is not really relevant.

 

From what I can remember, the shot was a front view, with beams of blue light at the back of the stage facing forward. The camera angle covered most of the stage, where the singer was well lit, but there was no sign of followspot whatsoever.

 

I think it was mainly the FOH generics well placed and used by the LD, but, would really like to dig out the original video so that others can comment.

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IF that link that lightsource provided is the same stage as the OP was asking about, take note of the floor. It's a high-gloss surface (achieved by using rolls of sticky-back plastic studio floor material) which gives a very smooth, very shiny surface. From the right angles, it's almost mirror-like.

 

This gives the floor the property of having very little "scatter" for the light. Any beam coming in from an angle will be reflected off it at an equal but opposite angle. This means that, if you put beams of colour from upstage, they'll be reflect towards the camera. However, white light from the front will be reflected to the rear of the set (or side/rear if it comes in at an angle) with little or none being reflected back at the audience and cameras. The singer, on the other hand isn't shiny so will scatter the light back in the normal way.

 

That high gloss black flooring is used a lot in TV (we used to use it lots in one of our studios) and is yet another possible option for "how did they do it". In reality, the truth is probably a mix of several of the techniques mentioned.

 

Bob

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I don't think it was Bob, I only vaguely remember the clip, but it was a horizontal shot facing the artist, and that was the interesting point, as the OP stated, the whole stage area was washed in blue, however in various shots, the singer had a normal 'white' apperance.

 

There was no obvious light beams whatsoever, other than blue washing the whole scene.

 

That's why I can remember it, it looked odd.

 

Possibly done in Post Production?

 

Edit to add, I only referenced the YouTube link to show the quality of the lighting from a front illumination point of view, as it is fairly uniform and consistant.

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I don't think it was Bob, I only vaguely remember the clip, but it was a horizontal shot facing the artist, and that was the interesting point, as the OP stated, the whole stage area was washed in blue, however in various shots, the singer had a normal 'white' apperance.

 

There was no obvious light beams whatsoever, other than blue washing the whole scene.

 

That's why I can remember it, it looked odd.

 

Possibly done in Post Production?

 

Edit to add, I only referenced the YouTube link to show the quality of the lighting from a front illumination point of view, as it is fairly uniform and consistant.

 

Hi, thats exactly what I remember, although I dont remember who it was! :** laughs out loud **: Basically, it was the semi-finals/finals and they had low-fog covering the stage which was washed in blue and the singer was in bright white, giving (as LightSource said) the normal white appearance. I dont think it was that youtube link you posted, but thanks anyway & sorry!! :D I cant find the clip on Youtube, but I reckon side-lighting seems possible, or as Bob mentioned, a mixture of different techniques. I'll keep looking for the clip though!! :)

 

Thanks everyone!

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